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You will only get input lag on the Auria if you set the resolution lower than 1440p since the image has to be processed before being displayed. At native 1440p resolution the Auria has no noticeable input lag. Ive tested side-by-side with the Asus 144hz 27" monitor, which is the fastest monitor on the market.

This is another trait that most people simply cant understand.....

Also note, if you are a hardcore FPS gamer you will need a $400 videocard to run games at 1440p otherwise you will suffer some input lag.
Edited by Grimster - 3/21/13 at 3:23am
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You will only get input lag on the Auria if you set the resolution lower than 1440p since the image has to be processed before being displayed. At native 1440p resolution the Auria has no noticeable input lag. Ive tested side-by-side with the Asus 144hz 27" monitor, which is the fastest monitor on the market.

This is another trait that most people simply cant understand.....

Also note, if you are a hardcore FPS gamer you will need a $400 videocard to run games at 1440p otherwise you will suffer some input lag.

7970 to the rescue wink.gif for the most part it handles games really well at 1440p. Anyway, this is news to me.. (But I'm also no expert)

How is the input lag with 1080p console gaming then? I will be getting a PS3 soon, has anyone gamed and watched movies on it and can comment on if the input lag is noticeable?

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You will only get input lag on the Auria if you set the resolution lower than 1440p since the image has to be processed before being displayed. At native 1440p resolution the Auria has no noticeable input lag. Ive tested side-by-side with the Asus 144hz 27" monitor, which is the fastest monitor on the market.

This is another trait that most people simply cant understand.....

Also note, if you are a hardcore FPS gamer you will need a $400 videocard to run games at 1440p otherwise you will suffer some input lag.

Compared to his Catleap, the Auria even in native resolution is going to give him slight input lag.

It is possible you're in the category of people who can't tell. This is why I tell people to always test in person since everybody is different.

Haven't fully tested but the Auria seems to have as much input lag as my U2711 (which makes sense since the Auria is a bootleg U2711 now).

The Korean multi input models been tested around 25 ms of input lag (the glossy Auria's should have the same input lag since its another Korean rebrand and the number seems close for the matte). The single inputs are less.

Objectively, if you go from the Catleap to the Auria you'll have higher input lag. If you can tell the difference or not is another story.

Tested my Auria with SLI 570's, single and SLI 680's (had to borrow a 680 to SLI) to eliminate GPU lag and I still notice slight input lag.

But hey, maybe I'm just picky. I stuck with CRT as long as possible (still have a few in the garage).
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Oh, wow I'm glad I can help you!
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Went to Microcenter today, found what may be the last 2 glossy Aurias in existence. The one with the opened box was in pretty bad shape (they're both open box, just one of them had the box already open):



Here's what it looked like when I pulled the better one out of the box at Microcenter:


and after I cleaned it with a wet paper towel:


So I bought it. This Auria is really nice!!! Despite a few small scratches to the bezel, I don't see any cosmetic damages to the screen, no dead or stuck pixels, and it powers on fine. Monster power brick that gets hot though, and when I turn it on I hear a slight chirp sound, something to do with the electricity. Nothing seems wrong with it however, the cahsier told me it was returned from the manufacturer? Now I'm going to test it and see how it looks compared to my catleap. I assume that this is the original glossy version, so the color calibration earlier in this thread applies to this monitor? The panel is the same as my Catleap and not that of the U2711 (on the newer matte Aurias) correct?

If you did not see my earlier post, I am interested in this Auria because I can hook up a PS3 to it (where my Catleap only has 1 DVI port, no speakers, no scalar), the Auria has all of this. They should be the same panel, however I am a little worried about the input lag in the Auria due to having more inputs.

Edit: some pics are in smile.gif They're kind of poor quality in low light conditions, so forgive me if they aren't accurate looking. For each screen I switched the color profile. For the Auria I used one in this thread. For the Catleap I used the D65 profile in the Catleap thread.

Backlight Bleed:
Catleap:


Auria (not sure if there's a ton of backlight bleed or it's just that much brighter than my Catleap):


White screen
Catleap (you cant see it but there is one dead pixel a little up and to the right of the center):


Auria (no dead pixels!):


Gradient

Catleap:


Auria:


HD Picture comparison (skewed maybe? phone camera, bad lighting)

Catleap:


Auria:


Catleap:


Auria:


Catleap:


Auria:


Again I'm so sorry if the photos are to bad to discern the differences. I'm not a photographer at all, this was taken on my GS3 at 8pm, so like I said it might not be accurate frown.gif I just wanted to get some preliminary pictures though. With that said, can you notice a difference?

Tonight I have no more time, tomorrow I will test the input lag in gaming. But if I record both monitors side by side in game and upload it somewhere, will the input lag still stand out if there's any? I hope you guys have enjoyed reading this smile.gif

Awesome post, man! Thank you!!!!

I'm an online customer, so I'd have to be careful if I want to do triple display.
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You will only get input lag on the Auria if you set the resolution lower than 1440p since the image has to be processed before being displayed. At native 1440p resolution the Auria has no noticeable input lag. Ive tested side-by-side with the Asus 144hz 27" monitor, which is the fastest monitor on the market.

This is another trait that most people simply cant understand.....

Also note, if you are a hardcore FPS gamer you will need a $400 videocard to run games at 1440p otherwise you will suffer some input lag.

Is a Titan enough?
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Again I'm so sorry if the photos are to bad to discern the differences. I'm not a photographer at all, this was taken on my GS3 at 8pm, so like I said it might not be accurate frown.gif I just wanted to get some preliminary pictures though. With that said, can you notice a difference?

yeah unfortunately to really accurately represent the two monitors you need a manual mode on the camera like what's available on an SLR. Cant tell if the GS3 is changing any of the exposure at all.

That said, just by looking at the pictures the Auria is brighter, letting you see more details in shadows. It's probably still not the most accurate representation though.
 
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Okay guys, just tested the input lag (again maybe the results are skewed).

Just ran a simple stopwatch test and used my GS3's burst mode (takes up to 20 pictures at 3.3 fps) and these are the results. The one on the left is the Auria, and on the right is the Catleap.

http://s1138.photobucket.com/user/apav2011/library/Input%20lag

So according to this, the Auria is about 10-20 ms slower than the Catleap. When playing BF3, I get mostly 40-60 fps when outdoors. How much more lag will there be going with the Auria and will it be noticeable for most people?

I haven't been able to spot any input lag, but I feel like its there (which is probably a placebo effect making me imagine that I see it? I'm not too sure)
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No flash based timer can produce accurate input lag tests, a subjective evaluation is more accurate assuming one can feel the difference.

http://www.tftcentral.co.uk/articles/input_lag.htm

If you have single input (dual-link dvi) 2560x1440 monitor, it will have around half the input lag vs. one with extra inputs. There are exceptions, those being the Viewsonic VP2770 and a few 2,000$ plus Eizos which have just as low lag as the single input models.
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No flash based timer can produce accurate input lag tests, a subjective evaluation is more accurate assuming one can feel the difference.

http://www.tftcentral.co.uk/articles/input_lag.htm

If you have single input (dual-link dvi) 2560x1440 monitor will have around half the input lag vs. one with extra inputs. There are exceptions, those being the Viewsonic VP2770 and a few 2,000$ plus Eizos which have just as low lag as the single input models.

Thank you smile.gif I am seriously considering selling my Catleap and keeping this Auria, but the input lag is the one thing I'm worried about. Monitor will be used for a mix of PC/PS3 gaming (and watching Blu-Rays). I don't have a PS3 yet so I can't test it when it's downscaled at 1080p, but apparently the lag is worse at that resolution?

Also would using display port instead of dual link dvi have any effect? (for pc)

+rep sir, you are very helpful
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Using a different input shouldn't make any difference in terms of input lag. The input lag usually remains the same at lower resolutions unless the display has a weird lag inducing scaler, but I doubt these do.

The Catleap should work (the single input CrossOver 27Q LED-P I used did) with a PS3 if you set it to 720p and uncheck the other resolutions (480 &1080p) if you use a dual-link dvi-hdmi cord or adapter. Most console games run @1280x720p or even lower resolutions. Blu-ray movies will work too.
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