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I'm curious on desktop versions...the next gen 3870k should be really nice tongue.gif
I always wanted one of those for a really small itx rig, I'll wait till benchmarks show up, and I have some spare cash again biggrin.gif
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A8 turbos to 2.4 GHz while the A10 is capped at 2.3 GHz. A10 win in Cinebench, single-threaded?
It depends what the official specs are for the A10-4600M. An article from Softpedia stated the A10-4600M has a clock of 2.3GHz and up to 3GHz turbo: link. It's sounds plausible but we'll have to wait and see if it's true. So if the specs from Softpedia are true then your comparing the standard clock of the A10-4600M to the turbo clock of the A8-3500M. The A8-3500M has a clock of 1.5GHz and max turbo of 2.4GHz. Hence why Usario said there is a 800MHz clock speed advantage (1.5GHz vs 2.3GHz).
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Hm, looks like Piledriver's IPC will be higher than Phenom II's, even if it won't be by much.
More on-topic: I can't say I'm disappointed with the graphics performance, but tbh I was expecting a bit more.

its hard to say, this is only cinebench so we need more testing on more specified areas, but yes over all in single thread it did well. at 3.2ghz it did 37% better than the llano clocked at 2.4ghz
trinity 3.2ghz compared to llano 2.4ghz is around 33% higher in frequency, so yes it is about the same or more
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Nice increase in single core performance. Looks like AMD is on the right track thumb.gif
while single thread is higher, the advantage in multithread is at 23% when it has like 50% clock advantage, but i guess that has to do with the core scaling penalty due to the shared resources
so while one might criticize the modular bulldozer design, it is pretty much what allowed such efficiency and high clocks with low TDP
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A8 turbos to 2.4 GHz while the A10 is capped at 2.3 GHz. A10 win in Cinebench, single-threaded?

turbo core on the trinity part goes up to 3.2ghz, according to the link from OP

over all this is great news so far, AMD did great improvements in performance/watt which is the main thing regardless of IPC or wat not, but on a side note i wonder why AMD didnt bother in releasing 45 watt parts, i wonder if its because that extra 10 watts gives trinity such minimal extra headroom that its not even worth it compared to the draw backs(consumption/heat)
still waiting on more benchmarks and till desktop trinity to see its frequency/consumption and performance/watt scaling to figure that out. on bulldozer the chips totaly lost it and went lose after 4.5hz http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/bulldozer-efficiency-overclock-undervolt,3083-14.html
Edited by sergionography - 5/14/12 at 8:45pm
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Assuming these are real, I'm cautiously optimistic about Trinity and Piledriver. Doubly so if the resonant clock mesh helps keep the volts down when overclocking.
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Assuming these are real, I'm cautiously optimistic about Trinity and Piledriver. Doubly so if the resonant clock mesh helps keep the volts down when overclocking.
well the higher you go in clocks the more you lose frequency/watt advantage. im guessing these mobile parts are clocked at the architectures sweet point so they show such improvements.
this is what AMD had in mind with bulldozer tho :/ man i hate how amd has to fail at first then make it up afterwards, kinda like phenom>phenom II
amd gained some ground now, but need to do even better next round to catch up as it will be time for intels Tick(haswell)
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A 37.5% single-core performance increase with just a 33% increase in clock.  NICE!

That's about a 3.4% IPC increase for single-thread/module tasks.  If that is L3-less Trinity APU then I am excited for Vishera thumb.gif Phenom II+ IPC combined with 4.8+ clocking abilities will be quite competitive if priced right.

 

While the multithreaded 4-core test would not nearly fare as well on a clock-for-clock basis (23% increase with 53% increase in clock), this has to do with the 20% performance loss attributed to workloads of over 2 integer cores/module loaded on Bulldozer/Piledriver processors.  However, seeing as the A10 uses higher clocks to maintain outperformance of the old A8 in multithreaded tasks at the same or less power consumption, looks like it's more than made up for with increased IPS (instructions-per-second).  Cheers to a well-balanced chip thumb.gif

 

Look at the chart, guys.  The 4600M is 2.3Ghz/3.2Ghz turbo with 2 cores (1 module).


Edited by xd_1771 - 5/14/12 at 9:24pm
post #17 of 361

Exciting!!!!

 

I really want to see AMD make use of the 45W and 55W TDP bins and squeeze some extra CPU performance, to compete with high end SB and IB.  Processors in those TDP bins are not there, could be there, and would be quite a waste of they weren't ever thumb.gif

 

45W or 55W Trinity that can still maintain lower TDPs when on battery with chosen profile, + Radeon dual graphics.  Oh my.

 

I'm curious as to how much processor clock speed increase (Thereby making Trinity more competitive with the higher end SB and IB solutions) will be allowed by 10 or 20W of TDP.

post #18 of 361
Given the fact that it's on the same process as Llano, this is a huge improvement. AMD is going to do very, very well with this. Not sure if I'd pick up Ivy Bridge or Trinity though...

Looking forward to Kaveri - 28nm, Steamroller, GCN... should be tasty. Of course, Haswell sounds plain intimidating. Who know what next year will look like.

AM3+ users finally have something to look forward to though. Piledriver should be a lot better than Bulldozer. Power consumption will actually be reasonable as well.
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All in all, a decent little bump over Llano. Hopefully those sleekbooks are discounted soon.
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