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post #331 of 361
10/3/12 at 3:55pm
Well, the Athlon x4 750k (Trinity without an iGP) is already listed on one e-tailer's site:
http://www.eclipsecomputers.com/product.aspx?code=CPA-AD750KB
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post #332 of 361
10/3/12 at 5:01pm
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I like how AMD has shaped this product. Power requirements are a bit disappointing
W-w-w-w-w-what?
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post #333 of 361
10/3/12 at 9:50pm
Now this I can get behind:
x264-power-amd.gif

Completes ever so slightly after the FX 4170, but with somewhere near 40% less power using GPU acceleration. On the flip side, Bulldozer looks all the more awful:

x264-power-total-energy.gif

AMD needs to keep pushing the OpenCL adoption, because the results are very, very real. Unfortunately, the results are practically as real as they would have been with Llano. Piledriver looks like a great improvement over Bulldozer — pretty much exactly where I expected it. Modest gains, but crucial ones. Unfortunately, Llano's Husky cores still draw less power. On the graphics side, VLIW4 wasn't impressive in 69xx, and it isn't impressive here either. GCN on the other hand...
Edited by Homeles - 10/3/12 at 9:53pm
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post #334 of 361
10/4/12 at 12:12pm
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Now this I can get behind:
x264-power-amd.gif
Completes ever so slightly after the FX 4170, but with somewhere near 40% less power using GPU acceleration. On the flip side, Bulldozer looks all the more awful:
x264-power-total-energy.gif
the results are practically as real as they would have been with Llano. ..
Llano is dead, Deal with it..rolleyes.gif
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post #335 of 361
10/4/12 at 12:22pm
Awaiting Athlon X4 750K for $81
http://techreport.com/review/23662/amd-a10-5800k-and-a8-5600k-trinity-apus-reviewed

At $40 cheaper I'm wondering:

A10-5800K + HD 6670 (Dual graphics)
versus
Athlon X4 750K + HD 7750 --- lower TDP total.
Edited by AlphaC - 10/4/12 at 12:27pm
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post #336 of 361
10/4/12 at 1:13pm
I haven't found any place that says otherwise, but I keep seeing it repeated that the NEW APUs with HD7000 series IGPs can be paired with the old 6000 series GPUs. WTH? Why would AMD place a 7000 series on these chips and not make them work with 7000 series discreet cards? Instead the discreet option is that same as the previous gen?
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10/4/12 at 1:28pm
Its 6k series but rebrand. 7670 and below is basically 6xxx
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10/4/12 at 1:41pm
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I haven't found any place that says otherwise, but I keep seeing it repeated that the NEW APUs with HD7000 series IGPs can be paired with the old 6000 series GPUs. WTH? Why would AMD place a 7000 series on these chips and not make them work with 7000 series discreet cards? Instead the discreet option is that same as the previous gen?

It's because if you paid any attention to the architecture and read any of the threads, Trinity uses VLIW4 cores, which is the same type of core as used in the 6xxx series. The newer 77xx series and up uses GCN cores, which would require a massive amount of work to make it run properly in crossfire with VLIW4 cores.
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10/4/12 at 1:49pm
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Awaiting Athlon X4 750K for $81
http://techreport.com/review/23662/amd-a10-5800k-and-a8-5600k-trinity-apus-reviewed

Same Here! I am going to build a system with the Athlon X4 750K as soon as it is released! Should be great fun.
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10/4/12 at 2:14pm
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It's because if you paid any attention to the architecture and read any of the threads, Trinity uses VLIW4 cores, which is the same type of core as used in the 6xxx series. The newer 77xx series and up uses GCN cores, which would require a massive amount of work to make it run properly in crossfire with VLIW4 cores.

I read that. But I guess I don't understand the 'WHY' behind it. Why not use GCN cores? Keeping cost down I suppose?
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