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post #71 of 361
These look like a good offering. May have to pick one up to game at work a little.
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You know, I have to laugh at all these people saying BD is so bad compared to Phenom II. I got a (nearly) free FX-4170 and when my Phenom II and the FX are overclocked the FX is noticeably faster at stuff I regularly do like x264 encoding and games are definitely smoother than they were. That's at 4.8Ghz, because it boots into Windows but fails P95 at 5Ghz.

And if Piledriver hits 6Ghz or something, IPC means nothing. Fast clock speeds can make up for bad IPC and visa versa.
    
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IB battery life- slightly worse than SB: http://www.anandtech.com/show/5772/mobile-ivy-bridge-and-asus-n56vm-preview/7

Are you being dishonest ? or are you comparing the power consumption of ivy bridge quad core to SB dual core ?

According to your own link, i7 3720QM clearly consume less power than i7 2820QM (the only SB quad in the charts), and at same time it performs better.
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And if Piledriver hits 6Ghz or something, IPC means nothing. Fast clock speeds can make up for bad IPC and visa versa.

Oh no, Pentium 4 flashback!!!
KILL IT WITH FIRE!!!!
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And if Piledriver hits 6Ghz or something, IPC means nothing. Fast clock speeds can make up for bad IPC and visa versa.
Good point, what are the odds of Piledriver hitting 6GHZ on air?
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post #76 of 361
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What socket are these mobile versions? Are they still FM2?


The desktop versions will be FM2, the standard mobile socket will be FS1r2 and the one for ultrabooks etc will be FP2.

    
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Good point, what are the odds of Piledriver hitting 6GHZ on air?

Lower than the odds of AMD shortening the pipeline to slightly increase IPC. That's if they haven't already with Trinity mobile.
   
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post #78 of 361
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LOL !!! You deliberately cherrypicking games that favor trinity
Here some cases were HD4000 matches or beat Trinity

My point exactly! HD 4000 is at best 20% faster, and that's only in TWO games. So what if it ties on occasion, it gets blown away by 50% in several games, 20%+ in several more. To say it's only 20% faster when it destroys HD 4000 in some games is just nonsense. It's clearly over 20% faster.

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Are you being dishonest ? or are you comparing the power consumption of ivy bridge quad core to SB dual core ?
According to your own link, i7 3720QM clearly consume less power than i7 2820QM (the only SB quad in the charts), and at same time it performs better.

Ivy quad to SB quad, let's stay with it. Read the slide: Battery life NORMALIZED, minutes per watt-hour, higher is better. 3720 gets LOWER minute/watt-hour, meaning lower battery life. At best Ivy Bridge quads tie SB quads in battery life, that's a pretty fair statement. 400

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One thing that we need to point out is that the original Sandy Bridge i7-2820QM laptop from Intel was an awesome example of how to deliver great battery life. We never did reach that same level with any of the retail quad-core laptops that we tested over the past year, but then most of the other quad-core laptops also included some form of discrete graphics. Compared with that particular notebook (which never shipped as a retail product), our Ivy Bridge notebook has worse battery life. Once we start comparing with retail laptops however—particularly those with switchable graphics—Ivy Bridge ends up looking like it will deliver similar to slightly better battery life relative to Sandy Bridge.

So perhaps IB will be SLIGHTLY better in terms of battery life, but there's no evidence showing that. On the other hand, the A10 laptop gives 15% higher battery life than an SB i5 dual-core at idle, and it ties the i5 dual for internet use. So it's fair to assume the battery life of Trinity quad might be better than IB dual, but worst-case there will be just a few % difference in favor of one or the other.
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For those of you that dont know already. Its impossible to argue on amds behalf. Gpu performance could be 100% better than the intel 4000 and people would argue the one benchmark where it is only 90% faster. Look at the threads about the 7970 and the 680 maybe 5-8% difference most of the time and bickering is 40 pages long.
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Not a bad APU by itself, but the fact that in order to not let the GPU go to waste in crossfiring, one has to use older, less efficient chips (76xx series downwards), rather than the much more efficient 28nm mobile chips is going to damp the demand for 'cheap crossfire' laptops somewhat..
 
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