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Originally Posted by idunnowutimdoin
Well the crucial 10th anniversary ram has shown reports to go to ddr2-1000, or stay at 3-3-3-12 timing at ddr2-800, that's the only reason why I recommended it, due to other's success.
So what do u think Chozart??? Pook, the one I bought the E6300 off of was saying that he is getting that Crucial RAM because it has been said to do good things for OCing. I am planning on ordering everything else I need on Sunday night, so I am hoping I made up my mind about everything by then.

I do trust you idunnowutimdoin, but with a name like that I'd like to get a second opinion.

EDIT: Were people getting DDR1000 on that DDR667 or the DDR800??
    
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Originally Posted by todd258
So what do u think Chozart??? Pook, the one I bought the E6300 off of was saying that he is getting that Crucial RAM because it has been said to do good things for OCing. I am planning on ordering everything else I need on Sunday night, so I am hoping I made up my mind about everything by then.

I do trust you idunnowutimdoin, but with a name like that I'd like to get a second opinion.

EDIT: Were people getting DDR1000 on that DDR667 or the DDR800??
the ddr667, here are a couple reviews and stuff for you. I'm learning myself still and Chozart's been one of the best on recommendations on this site.

http://www.3dgameman.com/content/view/4561/103/1/4/

Motherboard: ASUS P5W DH Deluxe
CPU: Core 2 Duo E6400 2.13 GHz (1066MHz) 2MB L2 Cache Socket 775 @ 3.2GHz
PSU: PC Power & Cooling Silencer 750W
Video Card: HIS X1900XTX Crossfire setup
Hard Drives: 2 WD Raptor 74GB HDDs in RAID0
Drive: Plextor PX-755SA DVD±R/RW Drive
Memory: Crucial DDR2 PC2-5300 Anniversary Memory (overclocked to 800MHz DDR2 using 3-3-3-10 timing)

http://www.bcchardware.com/index.php...1&limitstart=1

We ran a series of benchmarks to find out how stock performance compared to overclocked performance. We wanted to see how high these little 667MHz sticks could go at 3-3-3-12 1T timings. We were very impressed as they settled in over DDR2-800 with no trouble and finally topped out at DDR2-834.

there have been a couple other ppl that achieved 1000 from other forums, seems like no one on this forum bought these.
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post #23 of 56
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Originally Posted by idunnowutimdoin
the ddr667, here are a couple reviews and stuff for you. I'm learning myself still and Chozart's been one of the best on recommendations on this site.

http://www.3dgameman.com/content/view/4561/103/1/4/

Motherboard: ASUS P5W DH Deluxe
CPU: Core 2 Duo E6400 2.13 GHz (1066MHz) 2MB L2 Cache Socket 775 @ 3.2GHz
PSU: PC Power & Cooling Silencer 750W
Video Card: HIS X1900XTX Crossfire setup
Hard Drives: 2 WD Raptor 74GB HDDs in RAID0
Drive: Plextor PX-755SA DVD±R/RW Drive
Memory: Crucial DDR2 PC2-5300 Anniversary Memory (overclocked to 800MHz DDR2 using 3-3-3-10 timing)

http://www.bcchardware.com/index.php...1&limitstart=1

We ran a series of benchmarks to find out how stock performance compared to overclocked performance. We wanted to see how high these little 667MHz sticks could go at 3-3-3-12 1T timings. We were very impressed as they settled in over DDR2-800 with no trouble and finally topped out at DDR2-834.

there have been a couple other ppl that achieved 1000 from other forums, seems like no one on this forum bought these.
WOW!!! That is awesome!! I am defienatly considering this memory. Should i buy the P5B Deluxe to go with it??? That looks like it would be the best board for this RAM. Also, is the link you posted earlier the link to the 10th Anniversary Edition???
    
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It seems indeed that a P5B Deluxe and this RAM could be workign really well. I'd get that combition with the E6300
    
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Chozart
Crap.... wish you would have asked before you got that RAM. DDR2 533 will severely limit your overclocking.

I would recommend the GIGABYTE GA-965P-DS3 as a good overclockable motherboard for $142.99. Even the GIGABYTE GA-965P-S3 for $115.99 is a very nice board. I don't know how well the vanilla P5B overclocks.

I would seriously consider returning the DDR2 533 RAM, get the S3 motherboar, and use the savings for at least DDR2 667, preferably DDR2 800
Is there actually a difference between the DS3 and the S3? The only difference I can see is S3 doesn't support RAID. What about performance and overclocking ability?
Quote:
Originally Posted by Chozart
well... a 3.0GHz on a E6300 will need 3000/7 = 429MHz FSB. Thus, the RAM speed on 1:1 is DDR2 858 (already more than DDR2 800 stock speeds, but most DDR2 800 can handle it).

Some good DDR2 667 *might* reach that, but you gotta be lucky.
How neccissary is it to run 1:1 ratio though? Will performance be that much better at 1:1 ratio or having a pure higher MHz speed on the RAM?
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In specs, the lack of RAID on the S3 is the only difference. However, the DS3 has solid caps, which the S3 lacks. Thus, theoretically, the DS3 has a longer lifespan.

I believe running a divider worse than 1:1 (i.e. 3:4) will give a performance hit. Intel systems love bandwidth, thus running at least 1:1 (or better) will be beneficial.
    
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I cant asist all too much here However ive Heard Corsair isnt going to serve you all that well. Just things ive heard about that brand and Conroe. Perhaps look into some G.skill. However Chozart uses it maybe you got lucky Chozart ?
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Corsair is a bit of a hit and miss. The older kits of 6400C4 use the same chips as the G.Skill HZ, but I believe the more recent ones uses different chips (don't remember which ones)

Mine clocks pretty good... have no complaints (never really pushed them to the limit, but around 950MHz or so was no problem)
    
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Chozart
I believe running a divider worse than 1:1 (i.e. 3:4) will give a performance hit. Intel systems love bandwidth, thus running at least 1:1 (or better) will be beneficial.
What do you mean or better? 4:3 do you mean? I thought its good to run 1:1 because its not having to use a divider? What would be faster here:
  1. RAM @ 800MHz on a 266FSB @ 3:2 ratio
  2. RAM @ 800MHz on a 300FSB @ 4:3 ratio
  3. RAM @ 800MHz on a 400FSB @ 1:1 ratio
  4. RAM @ 800MHz on a 533FSB @ 3:4 ratio
  5. RAM @ 800MHz on a 600FSB @ 2:3 ratio
Assuming all latenicies and cpu clock speeds are the same what order will they be in, in terms of a faster PC?


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Originally Posted by Chozart
Mine clocks pretty good... have no complaints (never really pushed them to the limit, but around 950MHz or so was no problem)
Thats good if you can keep them as CAS 4?
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post #30 of 56
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Originally Posted by ENTERPRISE1701
I cant asist all too much here However ive Heard Corsair isnt going to serve you all that well. Just things ive heard about that brand and Conroe. Perhaps look into some G.skill. However Chozart uses it maybe you got lucky Chozart ?
That is why I want to purchase the Crucial RAM that is in my sig. It has been getting very good remarks with Conroes and the P5B Deluxe. It has been shown to hit DDR2 1000 speeds. I will just be happy with the DDR2 800 speeds, which have been very common.
    
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