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post #41 of 109
5/20/12 at 12:46pm
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I actually c]ame to this forum to make a PD thread. I been fighting off the upgrade bug since BD flopped. Isnt PD still releasing this year? Shouldnt we be getting Dev reviews/previews soon? Or atleast some kinda news?

I don't see BD as a failler what happen was all the hype of how it was a chip that was going to be a Intel killer chip some where compairing it to when AMD came out with the 64 chip and how it beat the heck out of the Pentium D chip and when it dident it was labled as a failer and then you had AMD owners buying the BD and trying to over clock it like the PH II and they don't scale the same way as a matter fact the BD will scale better then the PH II if you know how
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5/20/12 at 1:21pm
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^^^^ I see you got rid of your hurting i3 thumb.gif
....back on topic, and real world ideas on PD power consumption?

Huh? My ex-i3 is no where near "hurting" me. In fact I feel little difference between i3 and i5. I bought i5 because I want to give overclock a try.

Stop looking down at i3-2100.
Edited by trumpet-205 - 5/20/12 at 1:31pm
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post #43 of 109
5/20/12 at 1:55pm
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Huh? My ex-i3 is no where near "hurting" me. In fact I feel little difference between i3 and i5. I bought i5 because I want to give overclock a try.
Stop looking down at i3-2100.

Couldn't agree more. I3's are amazing chips for the money. Can't wait to see how the Ivy Bridge dual core's perform.
post #44 of 109
5/20/12 at 3:37pm
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Here is 4.4 GHz at 1.2 V (average Ivy Bridge) using Prime95 AVX measured at UPS (total system power draw including GPU etc),
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So, total system watts 210. Any idea what the CPU power consumption is?
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5/20/12 at 3:39pm
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Huh? My ex-i3 is no where near "hurting" me. In fact I feel little difference between i3 and i5. I bought i5 because I want to give overclock a try.
Stop looking down at i3-2100.

Not looking down on them at all. But for the money a 6100 and even some Phenom II's are a better performance value. But going with an i3 isn't a "bad" choice.
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5/20/12 at 3:41pm
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So, total system watts 210. Any idea what the CPU power consumption is?

2pzwth2.png

EDIT: At idle it is 121 W, so 210 W - 121 W = 89 W.
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Not looking down on them at all. But for the money a 6100 and even some Phenom II's are a better performance value. But going with an i3 isn't a "bad" choice.

I disagree but I will leave it at that.
Edited by trumpet-205 - 5/20/12 at 3:48pm
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post #47 of 109
5/20/12 at 3:43pm
Based on the trinity CPU benchmarks i'm really excited about Piledriver and I'll definitely be stuffing one into my rig. I currently have an FX-8150 at 4.7Ghz and I really pleased with this multi tasking. Im currently folding on CPU and 2 GPU's while playing Daiblo III with no hiccups.

Correct me if I am wrong but doesn't Llano incorporate Phenom II architecture? Which is known to have roughly 15% better IPC than bulldozer.. If thats the case wouldn't Piledriver be a 30%ish increase in IPC over Bulldozer? I also really happy about the projected higher clocks and lower power. :-)
post #48 of 109
5/20/12 at 3:53pm
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Based on the trinity CPU benchmarks i'm really excited about Piledriver and I'll definitely be stuffing one into my rig. I currently have an FX-8150 at 4.7Ghz and I really pleased with this multi tasking. Im currently folding on CPU and 2 GPU's while playing Daiblo III with no hiccups.
Correct me if I am wrong but doesn't Llano incorporate Phenom II architecture? Which is known to have roughly 15% better IPC than bulldozer.. If thats the case wouldn't Piledriver be a 30%ish increase in IPC over Bulldozer? I also really happy about the projected higher clocks and lower power. :-)

Llano features Stars architecture, which is a modified/scaled down architecture of Phenom II.
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post #49 of 109
5/20/12 at 3:56pm
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2pzwth2.png
EDIT: At idle it is 121 W, so 210 W - 121 W = 89 W.
I disagree but I will leave it at that.

That doesn't include power usage at idle.

I base my opinion on the value of i3 vs fx-6100 based on performance. Stock the i3 competes and even beats the 6100 in some tests. Overclock the 6100 to just 4GHz and the i3 can only keep up in single threaded benchmarks. Considering 90% of normal usage is multi-threaded I could care less if the i3 is better at that. I'd rather have better multi-threaded performance than single for the same price range.
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post #50 of 109
5/20/12 at 4:00pm
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Llano features Stars architecture, which is a modified/scaled down architecture of Phenom II.

Very true, but isn't Trinity a modified/scaled down architecture of Piledriver?
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