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Well, the time has come. After several long months and unexpected expenses (such as getting my roof fixed), I now have the money (and the WAF [wife approval factor]) to build my new rig. The primary purpose for this rig will be for gaming. Here's a list of what I already have:

  • NZXT Phantom 410 Case
  • 2 x 250 GB Western Digital HDD's
  • LG optical drive
  • Windows 7

And here is my proposed build:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-3570K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($189.99 @ Microcenter)
CPU Cooler: Corsair H100 92.0 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($112.99 @ NCIX US)
Motherboard: ASRock Z77 Extreme4 ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($129.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Mushkin Blackline 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($54.99 @ Newegg)
Hard Drive: Crucial M4 128GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($129.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Corsair 650W ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($69.99 @ Newegg)
Monitor: Asus VS238H-P 23.0" Monitor ($164.98 @ Amazon)
Total: $852.92
(Prices include shipping and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2012-05-16 19:18 EDT-0400)

GPU: Asus GeForce GTX 670 DirectCU II TOP (if it ever goes on sale in the US - I'm giving it about a week or two, otherwise I'll go with the Gigabyte or EVGA versions)

And where I'm clueless:

  • Gaming keyboard
  • Gaming mouse


Any comments or suggestions would be greatly appreciated. The budget for this is not to exceed $1,500 (or else my wife might kill me). Thanks for the input!

EDIT: Updated PSU to reflect TX650 V2.
Edited by waylonrobert - 5/16/12 at 4:19pm
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post #2 of 17
Two things: The H60 / H80 / H100 have had a few rattling noise problems; there are a few threads about it here on OCN.

You can find more information and redirection to other threads in this one:

http://www.overclock.net/t/1209387/corsair-h100-pump-noise/0_30

In any case, given Ivy Bridge's temperature problems, you could very well go with an air cooler and save some cash at the same time.

That PSU is outdated, you can now buy the TX650 V2, which is 80 Plus Bronze.

Hope that helps!

Cheers!
 
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post #3 of 17
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Originally Posted by tpi2007 View Post

Two things: The H60 / H80 / H100 have had a few rattling noise problems; there are a few threads about it here on OCN.
You can find more information and redirection to other threads in this one:
http://www.overclock.net/t/1209387/corsair-h100-pump-noise/0_30
In any case, given Ivy Bridge's temperature problems, you could very well go with an air cooler and save some cash at the same time.
That PSU is outdated, you can now buy the TX650 V2, which is 80 Plus Bronze.
Hope that helps!
Cheers!

Thanks for the info - I actually meant to put the TX650 V2 PSU in the list. At any rate, given those pump noise issues, what would be some good air coolers? My thinking with going for a liquid CPU cooler was the high temps reported with IB might fare better with liquid cooling as opposed to air cooling, especially as I do plan on doing some OC'ing to IB.
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post #4 of 17
The Hyper 212 Evo is a good choice, also the Corsair A70, and Arctic Cooling i30. The problem with Ivy Bridge has either to do with the thermal paste they use between the CPU die and the IHS (there is conflicting evidence and no well known site has conducted the experiment and reported on it yet), or with the 22nm process as it is now, which can't efficiently get the heat out properly. In either case, air cooling or water cooling is not going to make a difference; the only methods that do make a difference are LN2/DICE.
 
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post #5 of 17
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Originally Posted by tpi2007 View Post

The Hyper 212 Evo is a good choice, also the Corsair A70, and Arctic Cooling i30. The problem with Ivy Bridge has either to do with the thermal paste they use between the CPU die and the IHS (there is conflicting evidence and no well known site has conducted the experiment and reported on it yet), or with the 22nm process as it is now, which can't efficiently get the heat out properly. In either case, air cooling or water cooling is not going to make a difference; the only methods that do make a difference are LN2/DICE.

Thanks for the suggestions! I've been following the owners thread for IB and it appears that some users are seeing significant temperature differences between water and air cooling, with water working better. But you seem to suggest this is not the case?
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post #6 of 17
Also the XFX 750w is the same price as the TX650w so I would choose that instead for the PSU.
post #7 of 17
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Also the XFX 750w is the same price as the TX650w so I would choose that instead for the PSU.

Thanks for the suggestion! Could you explain a bit as to why you would pick the XFX over the Corsair?
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post #8 of 17
750W is the baseline for most CF/SLI setups using GTX 6xx or Radeon 7xxx.
post #9 of 17
I would suggest getting Corsair TX750V2 for PSU. You can't beat the years of trust and quality satisfaction this product has built for itself!

If you want to go for mechanical keyboard, I would like to suggest Corsair K90. I own one and it owns me smile.gif
Here is mine:
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Corsair K90 Keyboard by proxycon, on Flickr

FOr mouse, I would suggest MX518 as I have owned one before and it was great. (Although it is large and may be troublesome for people with small hands.)
I have ordered a Corsair M60 for now after seeing some rave reviews about it. You cant go wrong with Deathadder also I feel. smile.gif
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post #10 of 17
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750W is the baseline for most CF/SLI setups using GTX 6xx or Radeon 7xxx.

Thanks - but I have no intention to SLI, so in that case, should I still be looking at 750W? My thinking is that if I'm not going to come close to using 650W (per several PSU calculators I used), why pay more in energy costs for a 750W?
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