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Everytime I try to OC either the BIOS doesn't boot or windows doesn't boot. Now I'm thinkin this is a RAM Problem as I have 4 DIMMS 3 of them are Kingston Value Ram and the other 512 is some unknown brand that came off a dell 3000. I also thought this might've been a PSU problem as I have 2 HDs, but I just saw someone with 4 HDs and it OCs fine. and also games like BF2 and BF2142 are running like crap. in a full 64 man server i'll get around 12-25 FPS. Does that have to do with the CPU clock? I was thinking of going with a Enermax Liberty 500W or 620 W because it has 22 Amps. Any sudgestions? On 3dmarl06 I got about 4100. and FEAR runs fine so it's not a broken card.
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AMD do not like 4 sticks, especially value sticks. Try to get a 2gb kit. and what do you mean you can't OC? Can you at least raise it by one FSP?
    
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if it wont oc for ya you could always send it to me ;p
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ohh didn't know AMDs don't like 4 sticks. thanks for the quick reply, gona pick up a 2 GB kit soon. which company though? the XMS series? Well i can OC the CPU by..lets say 5, or 10. but sometimes the mobo bios doens't boot, so I have to open the side panel and press that red button on my mobo to clear the BIOS and try again. really annoying.



what about the low FPS issue...does that have anything to do with the CPU being at 2.2 Ghz? I've heard it can reach 2.6 at least. the 3700 san diego core I mean.
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post #5 of 15
yes i would say it is your odd ram that is causing the problem.

i have the 3700 also and with my 2gig of patriot ddr400 mine OC nicely but my crappy mobo won't raise volts any higher so i cant go above 2.7ghz

have you tryed defragging your HD since you installed BF2142?
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post #6 of 15
For your RAM i am no expert, but my RAM seems to do and ace job. But it depends on how much you are willing to pay. You can pick these up for about £170 new. But as for the low fps, the 3700 at stock is way capale of handling bf2. I had no problems as such and i was using a 7600gt with this setup. I would say its a psu problem but your psu seems fine, so im stumped.
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post #7 of 15
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I tried on a friends OCZ PC-3200 DDR400 Platinum Edition 2GB. I was able to OC more. my question is...can this be a mobo problem? I remember playing around with it one day and I got some FPS increase by turning something on...now When i try it BIOS or Windows won't load at all. so my question is....a 2 GB kit or a Enermax Liberty 500W PSU? Im defraging now using windoes defragging thing. What does it do btw?
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Originally Posted by panzer126
I tried on a friends OCZ PC-3200 DDR400 Platinum Edition 2GB. I was able to OC more. my question is...can this be a mobo problem? I remember playing around with it one day and I got some FPS increase by turning something on...now When i try it BIOS or Windows won't load at all. so my question is....a 2 GB kit or a Enermax Liberty 500W PSU? Im defraging now using windoes defragging thing. What does it do btw?
Did you raise the FSB and not lower the HT multiplier? you should set it to 4x which can go up to 250FSB.

Defragging puts spreaded bits of files together again and should increase system performance if you haven't done it for a while (on FAT32, if you have an NTFS drive it's not really needed), while doing it disconnect your pc from the internet (take out the cable) or else defragging will take longer.

Edit: I hope you have tried a memory divider also?
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yea, its probably the ram
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Well I found a review of my mobo that covers OC'ing a bit.

HERE

The Overclocking is done in the Cell Menu, towards the botom of that link. As I understand it. The first thing I should do is set the HT frequency on maybe 4? then adjust the FSB, go by increments of 10 or 5 everytime. then I need to adjust my CPU ratio. since mine is a 2.2 Ghz I put it on 11. and is that it? or Do i lower my ram to 166 from 200? Im new to this overclocking. DO I have to raise any of those voltages? No idea what memory dividers are...man Im noob at this. anyone care to educate me?
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