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So this is my first PC build, and I've been trying to learn as much as I can before I buy all the components.

I will be primarily using this PC for music production, some video editing, and some gaming (mostly SC2 Diablo 3 borderlands 2 when it comes out)

I'm definitely leaning towards the 3770k even though people are complaining that it runs hot.

I'm entirely new at this, and I have a few questions regarding a good motherboard, and also a good case.

Here is what I have so far:

Intel Core i7-3770K Ivy Bridge 3.5GHz
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819116501

ASUS P8Z77
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131820

G.SKILL Ares Series 16GB (2 x 8GB)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231558

CORSAIR H100
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835181017

CORSAIR Enthusiast Series CMPSU-650TX 650W
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139005

NZXT Phantom PHAN-001WT White
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811146067

My main concerns are with the H100 and the motherboard.

Will the H100 keep the CPU cool enough to where I can overclock it a decent amount?

and is the P8Z77 a good motherboard for my setup? I haven't decided on a graphics card yet but I do not plan on running in crossfire or anything like that.

Sorry for the wall of text, and sorry if this is not an appropriate forum for this thread.
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H100 should work fine with a decent overclock and also try and pick up a modular psu.
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If you're only going to be gaming, you can save a lot of money by using different parts. biggrin.gif

If gaming, the 3570k will be just fine.
I suppose for video editing and other things the 3770k would also be good. You really only need it if you know you'll be using lots of threads.

8GB will also be plenty for gaming.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820147096
That Samsung set can overclock way far and is inexpensive. They're sold out in a lot of places, but if you can find them they're well worth it. thumb.gif

You could definitely get a cheaper board, however ASUS is a pretty respected brand.
If you don't need the Wi-Fi that comes with it, though, you could get a cheaper board from ASRock or Biostar. Highest end Z77 Biostar mobo is about $35 less than that ASUS board, and the Extreme6 from ASRock is cheaper as well.

You should check out the power supply forum in the components section. I'm not sure you would need, which is why I recommend those threads. There's a calculator made by the PSU editor and a thread for suggested PSU's. biggrin.gif
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Suggested PSU's

The Thermalright Silver Arrow is just as good, cheaper, and quieter than the H100. You can look into that, the Prolimatech Genesis or Megahalems, the Noctua NH-D14, or the Phanteks dual tower cooler. All pretty much equal.
By the way, the H100 isn't bad, it's just expensive and doesn't offer (much) better cooling than the others I listed. biggrin.gif

Phantom has great reviews and most people on OCN like it.

What's your total budget and then the budget for the graphics card?

This is one of the appropriate sections you could put this, so you're good. biggrin.gif

Hope I helped thumb.gif
 
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I was actually looking at the BIOSTAR TZ77XE3 But I've heard that they can be unreliable. And yeah I really don't need the wifi at all haha

Would this be a good PSU for my setup? http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817151088

And what is the difference between modular and not?

I'll check out the PSU calculator you showed me biggrin.gif

And for the graphics card, I was leaning towards either a 7770, or a 6850. I'm aiming around $200 or less seeing how I won't be playing any games to really require more than that.

Also do you think I would be able to overclock to above 4Ghz using air?
Edited by Ampharos - 5/16/12 at 10:03pm
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The PSU would probably be overkill for the cards you're looking at paired with the low wattage 3770k. I know that the SeaSonic is a good PSU, but you might want to check the PSU calculator to see what wattage you need. I'm sure you'll be fine, but better safe than sorry. thumb.gif

Modular on PSU's just means you can use only the wires you want or need, instead of having all of them bundled up and using less than half of them. Saves space and looks better biggrin.gif

If you're unsure about the Biostar, then go for the ASRock. tongue.gif

What resolution will you be playing at? If it's above 1080p, you might want to consider a 7850 just because it has more VRAM. If you're on or below 1080p 1GB VRAM should be fine, unless you're know you're going to play a game that uses a lot of VRAM. Skyrim (with mods) is a good example of a VRAM eater, Battlefield 3 is another. tongue.gif
 
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Definitely stick with the H100. It may not perform any better than the Silver Arrow but it sure looks a whole lot better and is pretty much fool proof in installation. As for the PSU, the one you picked originally would be fine but that Seasonic is one of the best PSU's made. Modular just means that the cables are a plug-in type so that you can just use only the cables you need (beware though that some modular PSU's like the HX series Corsairs have hard-wired 24-pin and 8-pin cables).

As for video cards, if you are aiming for a $200 price range it would be hard to go against a 560Ti or a 6950....
Edited by Majin SSJ Eric - 5/16/12 at 10:16pm
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Hmmmm good to know. the PSU calculator was around 475-500w for me depending on my graphics card selection. The only reason I would go for a 650w though is if I ever do want to add another graphics card to my setup.

Actually, ****... I'd rather spend the extra money on a 7850 and get a 500w PSU.

Do you think I would be okay with 500?
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Originally Posted by Majin SSJ Eric View Post

Definitely stick with the H100. It may not perform any better than the Silver Arrow but it sure looks a whole lot better and is pretty much fool proof in installation. As for the PSU, the one you picked originally would be fine but that Seasonic is one of the best PSU's made. Modular just means that the cables are a plug-in type so that you can just use only the cables you need (beware though that some modular PSU's like the HX series Corsairs have hard-wired 24-pin and 8-pin cables).
As for video cards, if you are aiming for a $200 price range it would be hard to go against a 560Ti or a 6950....

Would you recommend getting a 7850 and buying a smaller power supply?

I would definitely like to save money on the electricity bill. Also the main reason that I wanted water cooling is because a lot of the air cooling units touch against the ram.
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Would you recommend getting a 7850 and buying a smaller power supply?
I would definitely like to save money on the electricity bill. Also the main reason that I wanted water cooling is because a lot of the air cooling units touch against the ram.

Just because you have a smaller power supply does not mean your system will pull less power from the wall. PSU's only pull the power they need to pull. Power supplies are also most efficient around 50% load. I would say don't cheap out on your PSU because if that part screws up, it could take your entire system down with it.
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The Thermalright Silver Arrow is just as good, cheaper, and quieter than the H100. You can look into that, the Prolimatech Genesis or Megahalems, the Noctua NH-D14, or the Phanteks dual tower cooler. All pretty much equal.
By the way, the H100 isn't bad, it's just expensive and doesn't offer (much) better cooling than the others I listed. biggrin.gif
Phantom has great reviews and most people on OCN like it.

I know you may not be implying this, but I wanted to say that the H100 is not loud at all. I have it on my PC running pretty hard and it's barely noticeable hum. It keeps my OC'ed 3770K really cool. At idle, I get down to like 25C and load from games maybe the 50s. Just wanted to put my 2c as an actual H100 user.
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