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^ im Hysteria1 I just made a new account because i didn't like my name haha
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Okay here we go...
1) macros not needed, but i will be play moms so may come in handy
2) standard nice big layout, I don't want a small keyboard i like the number pad even tho i never touch it haha
3) I don't need silence and I like sound feedback, although i don't want it to sound like a stampede whenever i type
4) tactile, somewhat pronounced
5)i want backlighting, and all of the keys would be cool, since I'm lefty i don't used WASD
6)color must match mouse
7)no
8)i don't think so
9)I have no clue what that means
10)in between, i don't want to have to slam each key but i hate when i brush my finger over a key and it somehow presses
11)no
12)i don't like keyboards that get prominent finger prints everywhere haha
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One of the most important questions that need to be asked here is budget.
For backlit keyboards I hear good things about the ducky's. The razer blackdidow is probably a decent choice, though I don't think it justifies its price tag. Also the side macro keys would drive me insane personally. if you can't comfortably reach the macro keys from the WASD cluster, what on earth are they doing on the keyboard at all.

If you want solid tactile feedback that narrows down your key choices to Cherry MX blue and cherry MX Brown, by the way.

Again, I highly recommend trying to find a place you can test all the switches your self.
I have thought certain types were the holy grail and gone to others, then reverted again. You will need to test them out to make a smart decision.
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Originally Posted by Zero4549 View Post

Razer can be overpriced on certain products, but others are very reasonable. Both the deathadder and abyssus are very fairly priced, along with some of their mousepads and accessories. Just stay away from the Mamba and their audio products mostly.

Whats' exactly wrong with their audio?
post #24 of 51
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Originally Posted by Hysteria1 View Post

Okay here we go...
1) macros not needed, but i will be play moms so may come in handy
2) standard nice big layout, I don't want a small keyboard i like the number pad even tho i never touch it haha
3) I don't need silence and I like sound feedback, although i don't want it to sound like a stampede whenever i type
4) tactile, somewhat pronounced
5)i want backlighting, and all of the keys would be cool, since I'm lefty i don't used WASD
6)color must match mouse
7)no
8)i don't think so
9)I have no clue what that means
10)in between, i don't want to have to slam each key but i hate when i brush my finger over a key and it somehow presses
11)no
12)i don't like keyboards that get prominent finger prints everywhere haha
smile.gif

PS/2 is the old round mouse/keyboard connector that was used before USB became popular. In several ways it is still superior for keyboards (not for mice in any sort of way really). It allows NKRO and uses hard interrupts as opposed to polling (more responsive, although perhaps not enough of a difference for a human to notice).

KRO is shorthand for Key Roll-over. It is how many keys you can press at the same time before the keyboard either stops registering, sticks, or ghosts (phantom false key presses are introduced).

2KRO means 2 keys at once - this is the standard for the vast majority of keyboards. 6+4KRO (the 4 being modifier keys such as shift, and alt) is the maximum limit for USB spec. USB is physically capable of more but it requires going outside of spec or using fancy drivers and controllers like on the Microsoft sidewinder keyboards. You also usually never see more than 6+2 on USB because of additional features which use the last two "channels" or just simply to cut costs. NKRO means infinite keys can be pressed at the same time and is only possible via PS/2.

Please note that some keyboards have "anti-ghosting gaming clusters" or w/e they want to call them in order to give the effect of greater-than-2KRO without the cost of actually implementing a proper diode matrix. This won't really help you as a left handed user at all, but even if it did, it actually has the harmful side effect of rendering portions of the keyboard (parts the manufacturer deems as less important) as low as 1KRO.

Get back to me on that and you'll have a couple good choices waiting for you. In the mean time, I can pretty much tell you that you want Cherry Brown switches. They're very common and you should have no problem finding a keyboard with them. The question is really what price, how much KRO, and what interface you want.
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Whats' exactly wrong with their audio?

It's just poor sound quality for the price. You can get much better sounding audio (more comfortable too if you're talking headphones) for half the price if you look elsewhere.

As for the surround sound headphones, they're pretty much gimmicks no matter what company makes them. I don't really know if Razer's newest one is any better than the rest of the competition, but its still a gimmick at best.
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It's just poor sound quality for the price. You can get much better sounding audio (more comfortable too if you're talking headphones) for half the price if you look elsewhere.
As for the surround sound headphones, they're pretty much gimmicks no matter what company makes them. I don't really know if Razer's newest one is any better than the rest of the competition, but its still a gimmick at best.

I don't really agree with that. The Carcharias and Megalodon for example are a rebranded Fischer Audio model with what I'd assume is custom drivers.

In terms of comfort, both these headsets are fairly lightweight and happen to be one of the few that agree with my head (IE. I can game for hours without any fatigue). I also have no complaints with the SQ, but that's a really subjective topic.

PS: I've tried quite a few headphones and headsets ranging from $50 to $250. This is just my experience with this particular product(s). They're not the best, but they're not exactly bad either. (At least how they're made out to be...)
post #26 of 51
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Originally Posted by AMDrocks View Post

well, there is always razer, but their products are poor quality.

I have no idea how this myth that razer gear is somehow sub par to any other gaming brand was created, but unsubstantiated statements like these are perpetuating it and the forum is worse of for it.

All gaming items are relatively low production cost electronics made in asian factories as cheaply as possible, not handmade swiss precision instruments. Some will have production faults, others will not.
I have had zero problems with any of the 6 razer products i've purchased over the years, but everything I owned from steelseries except their mouse pads had RMA-level issues and were returned within a month or two. Do I then go around saying SS quality is horrible? No, I understand that its luck of the draw.

And even if it was true that razers stuff is somehow worse than the rest in terms of quality that would still be a worthwhile trade off for their mice. I would gladly swap out a perfect sensor mouse every 2 months than be permanently stuck with an awful acceleration/prediction/low speed mouse.
post #27 of 51
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Originally Posted by viowastaken View Post

Hi there,
lefty with 15 years PC gaming experience and more than 30 mice owned here.
....................
My opinions
#1 Deathadder / abyssus
etc


can't agree more...tried plenty of mouses of all kind, logitech, razer, roccat and so on....razer abyssus all the way, especially if you like lightweight mouses with great manoeuvrability. if you need more than 3 buttons, go deathadder, little bit heavy than abyssus but with more buttons..both have the best sensor i have ever used.

abyssus got some cons as well, like can't turn off light on it or no extra buttons, or no firmware upgrade, but overall if you want perfect control of your pointer, there is no better choice than razer abyssus.
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can't agree more...tried plenty of mouses of all kind, logitech, razer, roccat and so on....razer abyssus all the way, especially if you like lightweight mouses with great manoeuvrability. if you need more than 3 buttons, go deathadder, little bit heavy than abyssus but with more buttons..both have the best sensor i have ever used.
abyssus got some cons as well, like can't turn off light on it or no extra buttons, or no firmware upgrade, but overall if you want perfect control of your pointer, there is no better choice than razer abyssus.

(I'm Hysteria1 I made a new account) okay so far I'm looking at the abyssus and the blackwidow stealth edition keyboard, are those products fairly priced?
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(I'm Hysteria1 I made a new account) okay so far I'm looking at the abyssus and the blackwidow stealth edition keyboard, are those products fairly priced?

Abyssus has some reported jitter issues for some users, not for others. If you're willing to roll those dice and you like the shape and don't need any extra buttons, its priced very fair. If you aren't willing to deal with that, I'd suggest a Deathadder (again, only if you like the shape). It's pretty much an upgrade in every way (even if only slight) except for weight and size, which are both subjective. Do note though that if you DO get a deathadder, there are a couple quick cheap non-warranty-voiding mods that you should do to get the best performance out of it.

Black Widow has a reputation for shoddy quality construction. A very high percentage of users complain about LEDs that burn out, keycaps that crack and become rattly or sticky, or other craftsmanship related issues. It is also only a 2KRO keyboard and it's passthrough location is pretty much unusable for right handed users (which is irrelevant for you but a factor none the less if you try to resell it later). Over all, I would not recommend it. For the same price, you can get a X-Armor (which uses the same OEM as the black widow and is somewhat better built and has NKRO and properly placed passthroughs, but lacks of macros) or a ducky shine overclock edition which is a substantial quality upgrade but may or may not strike you visually as being a bit plain.

Did you ever decide what you wanted in terms of USB VS PS/2 and KRO?
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Abyssus has some reported jitter issues for some users, not for others. If you're willing to roll those dice and you like the shape and don't need any extra buttons, its priced very fair. If you aren't willing to deal with that, I'd suggest a Deathadder (again, only if you like the shape). It's pretty much an upgrade in every way (even if only slight) except for weight and size, which are both subjective. Do note though that if you DO get a deathadder, there are a couple quick cheap non-warranty-voiding mods that you should do to get the best performance out of it.
Black Widow has a reputation for shoddy quality construction. A very high percentage of users complain about LEDs that burn out, keycaps that crack and become rattly or sticky, or other craftsmanship related issues. It is also only a 2KRO keyboard and it's passthrough location is pretty much unusable for right handed users (which is irrelevant for you but a factor none the less if you try to resell it later). Over all, I would not recommend it. For the same price, you can get a X-Armor (which uses the same OEM as the black widow and is somewhat better built and has NKRO and properly placed passthroughs, but lacks of macros) or a ducky shine overclock edition which is a substantial quality upgrade but may or may not strike you visually as being a bit plain.
Did you ever decide what you wanted in terms of USB VS PS/2 and KRO?

USB and for KRO Im not really sure what is sufficient for paying mmo's?

does the death adder have many problems? also my hands aren't very big so it may be too big
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