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ok heres whats up, im trying to decide on a new graphcard since the card got burndt

heres my setup

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old card
PowerColor Radeon HD4870 X2 Dual-DVI 2GB

and what im feeling strong for atm
XFX Radeon HD7970 HDMI Dual-DisplayPort 3GB

any opinions and advice is very much apreciated, i wanna place an order as soon as possible.

- gossip around the card or personal experience around it?
- would it pop well with my setup?


best regards
me
post #2 of 18
First off, Welcome to OCN! Now that that's out the way...

If you can find an Nvidia GTX 670 in stock get that instead of the 7970. The 670 performs the same, if not better than the 7970 while being around $100 cheaper.
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thankyou very much for response, do you maybe know of any reviews of this product GTX 670
with some legit pros/cons ?

does my setup function with this card ??

thankyou
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Originally Posted by airisom2 View Post

First off, Welcome to OCN! Now that that's out the way...
If you can find an Nvidia GTX 670 in stock get that instead of the 7970. The 670 performs the same, if not better than the 7970 while being around $100 cheaper.

Don't let this fool you, a 670 is not really an alternative to a 7970. Just because it beats it in a few random benches means nothing, unless you think a 7950 is significantly better than a 590/6990 as it can best those a few times as well.

Right now the 680 is slightly ahead of the 7970 on average and the 670 edges out the 7950 as well.

Stock vs stock and OC vs OC for 670/680 vs 7970/50

Also see these posts: Here and Here

Right now, for Canada, the 7970 is $460 cheapest, a little high imo. The 670 is hard to find but around $400 and the 7950 $390 (though its got $10 less shipping, so $20 cheaper at best)

I'd think, raw performance wise, you'd be better with the 670 over the 7950, though its louder and uses more power on load. Performance is about 5% different on average, in favor of the 670 and the price difference is very small. I think they will be about equal with matured drivers on each, though its any1's guess.

If it comes down to choosing between the 670 and 7950 it'll almost be personal preference if the prices are similar (670 should be a tad higher at this point).

If you want fastest single, your looking at 680 vs 7970. 680 is always out of stock, and also $50 more than a 7970 for cards that trade blows, again 680 slightly ahead on average, though I don't feel the $50 extra is worth it at the moment. 7970 is a tad overpriced, but against a card that has similar performance, costs $50 more and you can't get it anywhere, the 7970 wins by default there... Price cuts needed on all 4 of these really, but really won't happen till nVidia can ramp up production and get cards in stock. So if you can wait a few months, you most likely will save $50 or so, on either card.

All depends on your budget and needs. Right now I'd suggest 670/7950 range, unless you need/want the best. Then 7970 now. Good luck finding a 680 even if you want it...
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Don't let this fool you, a 670 is not really an alternative to a 7970. Just because it beats it in a few random benches means nothing, unless you think a 7950 is significantly better than a 590/6990 as it can best those a few times as well.
Right now the 680 is slightly ahead of the 7970 on average and the 670 edges out the 7950 as well.
Stock vs stock and OC vs OC for 670/680 vs 7970/50
Also see these posts: Here and Here
Right now, for Canada, the 7970 is $460 cheapest, a little high imo. The 670 is hard to find but around $400 and the 7950 $390 (though its got $10 less shipping, so $20 cheaper at best)
I'd think, raw performance wise, you'd be better with the 670 over the 7950, though its louder and uses more power on load. Performance is about 5% different on average, in favor of the 670 and the price difference is very small. I think they will be about equal with matured drivers on each, though its any1's guess.
If it comes down to choosing between the 670 and 7950 it'll almost be personal preference if the prices are similar (670 should be a tad higher at this point).
If you want fastest single, your looking at 680 vs 7970. 680 is always out of stock, and also $50 more than a 7970 for cards that trade blows, again 680 slightly ahead on average, though I don't feel the $50 extra is worth it at the moment. 7970 is a tad overpriced, but against a card that has similar performance, costs $50 more and you can't get it anywhere, the 7970 wins by default there... Price cuts needed on all 4 of these really, but really won't happen till nVidia can ramp up production and get cards in stock. So if you can wait a few months, you most likely will save $50 or so, on either card.
All depends on your budget and needs. Right now I'd suggest 670/7950 range, unless you need/want the best. Then 7970 now. Good luck finding a 680 even if you want it...

thanks for sharing ur opinions, its important that the card is good quality aswell and its quiet so i think im gonna stay with picking up a 7970
any further opinions or advice is very much apreciated
post #6 of 18
Fuell, its not just a few random benchmarks. Many benchmarks have the 670 besting the 7950 by a good margin in many games at multiple resolutions. The 680 does best the 7970 in many benchmarks as well. You can overclock the 670 a little bit and it can definately rival the 7970 and the 680 at stock settings. I think we should get more information from Vazkulator about what resolution he is planning on running in, what games and programs he plans on running, what his future plans are, and whether or not he has a preference for AMD or NVIDIA before we just shove him into a particular card that might not fit his needs.
Edited by Stickem - 5/18/12 at 6:40am
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Don't let this fool you, a 670 is not really an alternative to a 7970. Just because it beats it in a few random benches means nothing, unless you think a 7950 is significantly better than a 590/6990 as it can best those a few times as well.
Right now the 680 is slightly ahead of the 7970 on average and the 670 edges out the 7950 as well.

The 670 is an alternative to both the 7950 and the 7970. The 670 was made to compete with the 7950 and it gives performance comparable to the 7970 while using considerably less power in a shorter form factor. Currently, the 670 is the overall best high end card in its price range, and the 2GB of VRAM is enough for even 5760x1200.

The review I linked on my previous post also shows the amount of micro stuttering (frame-time latency between each frame produced) that the cards have too, and the 670 has considerably less micro-stutter than the 7950/7950 in all games tested outside of BF3.
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Originally Posted by airisom2 View Post

The 670 is an alternative to both the 7950 and the 7970. The 670 was made to compete with the 7950 and it gives performance comparable to the 7970 while using considerably less power in a shorter form factor. Currently, the 670 is the overall best high end card in its price range, and the 2GB of VRAM is enough for even 5760x1200.
The review I linked on my previous post also shows the amount of micro stuttering (frame-time latency between each frame produced) that the cards have too, and the 670 has considerably less micro-stutter than the 7950/7950 in all games tested outside of BF3.

what does it mean? for less or higher micro stutter?

im still feeling very tempted on radeon but so many opinions and different advice pointing me in different directions tongue.gif
post #9 of 18
The lower the micro stutter you have, the less lag there is between each frame produced, and the smoother the gameplay is. I'd highly advise you look at this article for in depth information about micro-stuttering. The main reason why I chose TechReport in the first place is because it is the only website that offers such great analyses such as this. There is also a video on youtube that shows micro-stuttering in play.
Edited by airisom2 - 5/18/12 at 8:51am
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Depends on what games you play, one card will beat the other on certain games and be slower on others.

Another factor would be overclocking. 7970 edges out a little ahead if you plan on overclocking the cards.
Edited by OCScrub - 5/18/12 at 8:55am
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