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5/18/12 at 9:46am
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BF3 =/ all PC games. You know how many users play WOW on their laptops?
According to your logic, any laptop with a dual-core+ is redundant. Why not go and bash those, too? People care about battery life, price, size, and power consumption, not IPC.
Potatoes gonna potate.

Less then 10 million people play WoW on a PC they own. In fact the number is even smaller considering the number of people playing in China/Korea playing in PC cafes. So again the number of people is TINY compared with the actual PC market. Like 500:1 small.

Also I don't see how battery life, price, size or power consumption is a negative in any way with Ivy. In fact it's pretty clearly a very good performer in those areas. Maybe you pay a bit more? What 50 bucks? Maybe?
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5/18/12 at 9:49am
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Less then 10 million people play WoW on a PC they own. In fact the number is even smaller considering the number of people playing in China/Korea playing in PC cafes. So again the number of people is TINY compared with the actual PC market. Like 500:1 small.
Also I don't see how battery life, price, size or power consumption is a negative in any way with Ivy. In fact it's pretty clearly a very good performer in those areas. Maybe you pay a bit more? What 50 bucks? Maybe?

In college everyone plays wow on thier computers at school or some kind of video game. Not sure what world you live in.
You pay a couple hundred bucks more for the Intel cpu.
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5/18/12 at 9:52am
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No the facts are that Battlefield 3 sells 10% of it's total sales on the PC. Meanwhile PC's outsell consoles by the hundreds of millions. The VAST VAST majority of PC users in general much less ultrathin notebooks will never touch a game their entire time using the PC. You people keep saying I'm projecting my own laptop needs onto everyone else when you are doing the exact same thing.

What most people will use their laptop for is a little bit of web browsing, a little bit of word processing and some skype here and there mixed with farmville. For these people neither CPU or GPU power is really neccessary. But I imagine most of them would prefer a stronger CPU if given the option just because if anything is going to speed up those tasks at all it's going to be the CPU. You are certainly entitled to have a different opinion on this but the market quite clearly shows buying habits are in line with what I'm saying.
you referred to one game. and that does not make it silly for a company to put their efforts into a realm that will bring about profits.
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5/18/12 at 9:53am
Lol my friend when his main desktop was dead he played wow from his netbook tongue.gif
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5/18/12 at 9:56am
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In college everyone plays wow on thier computers at school or some kind of video game. Not sure what world you live in.
You pay a couple hundred bucks more for the Intel cpu.

I live in the real world. In the real world real numbers are used to prove a point and anecdotal evidence is laughed at.
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you referred to one game. and that does not make it silly for a company to put their efforts into a realm that will bring about profits.

I referred to a game that is popular on the platform now. Any game including Blizzard/Valve's bigger ones prove the same point. Gaming is a tiny percentage compared to the number of units sold.
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5/18/12 at 9:58am
IMO, AMD is doing something really smart in the mobile segment, and it's called balance. Unless one needs discrete graphics in their laptop, it's hard to justify anything other than AMD right now.

From what I have seen around colleges, and around the average users that I have helped or know: If it can browse the web, run office, play facebook games, and keep games like Sims and Wow playable for a reasonable price, they're happy. To me that says, "I want a budget laptop with an AMD chip." I think AMD is making the right move here. Most average users could care less if it's maxed, all they want is the things they enjoy to simply 'work.'
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5/18/12 at 10:18am
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IMO, AMD is doing something really smart in the mobile segment, and it's called balance. Unless one needs discrete graphics in their laptop, it's hard to justify anything other than AMD right now.
From what I have seen around colleges, and around the average users that I have helped or know. If it can browse the web, run office, play facebook games, and keep games like Sims and Wow playable for a reasonable price, they're happy. To me that says, "I want a budget laptop with an AMD chip." I think AMD is making the right move here. Most average users could care less if it's maxed, all they want is the things they enjoy to simply 'work.'

On top of that I will be able to do everything the intel cpu does. It might take 2 or 5 sec longer.thumb.gif
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5/18/12 at 10:21am
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On top of that I will be able to do everything the intel cpu does. It might take 2 or 5 sec longer.thumb.gif

And when you use your computer for thousands of tasks everyday for a year, you've just wasted hours of your life.
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5/18/12 at 10:25am
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Less then 10 million people play WoW on a PC they own. In fact the number is even smaller considering the number of people playing in China/Korea playing in PC cafes. So again the number of people is TINY compared with the actual PC market. Like 500:1 small.
Also I don't see how battery life, price, size or power consumption is a negative in any way with Ivy. In fact it's pretty clearly a very good performer in those areas. Maybe you pay a bit more? What 50 bucks? Maybe?

 

How many millions of middle class $500 laptop buyers in America(?), China(?), Europe(?)...  that sit on their trains, buses, school lounge, parks (etc) and do spreadsheets, or crunch their database?

 

 

We have come to a day and age, where the PROCESSOR horsepower no longer matters (for generic mobile computing). It is now about power efficiency, cost, thermals & architectural features... but not performance/speed/power/crunching, in the low-end mobile sector..!

 

Ok?

 

 

 

 

 

 

You don't get it, if the APU can play minecraft way better than the HD 4000 and use less energy. You can game longer...  and if u turn down the graphics to match the HD 4000's.. then u have even more battery life (& now more raw performance).

 

AMD's Trinity APU provides an enormous value to the $399 ~ $599 notebook/netbook/ultra segment.

 

 

Nice concise package...   what is there not to love? 

 

 

 

 

Edit:  Jtom, i doubt you've ever walked through a dormatory in your life..!

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5/18/12 at 10:27am
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And when you use your computer for thousands of tasks everyday for a year, you've just wasted hours of your life.

I do not understand what you are say??wth.gif
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