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post #11 of 17
Just a suggestion: If you havent already, I would highly reccomend using memtest as a guage for initial ram stability as opposed to figuring that out in windows via prime 95. If you get into windows on some bad ram clocks/timings, there is a good chance of corrupting your OS and that will lead to a much bigger headache. I usually make my ram changes, use memtest on a bootable usb, run it for at least 5 passes, or just overnight, and then go into windows and use the other stability tests. You will save yourself some trouble in the long run if you do push the ram too far.

Here is the bootable usb installer.
post #12 of 17
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My computer seems pretty good about not letting me boot at all with bad RAM settings. Screen stays black and I eventually get an Overclock failed message prompting me to change settings. I have had to let Windows repair itself 2 times now. Only took like 45 seconds so no biggie, but it is still technically dangerous.
post #13 of 17

The only thing that could permanently damage your RAM (apart from accidents such as power surges or physical mistreatment) is overvolting them too much.


It is false to think that overclocking your memory will provide no gains in every real-world app.  Granted, this depends on the intensiveness of the task, the app, etc.  Damric's tests showed that there was more FPS benefit to be had by improving the memory bandwidth, than by overclocking two GPUs.  Some programs will see a large benefit.  Many programs will see little to no benefit; that doesn't mean that the indeed existing benefits of improved system memory bandwidth on today's platforms should be ignored.  For example: if you find yourself often compressing/decompressing large files with WinRAR, that is where you will see a great benefit with improved bandwidth.

 

Do what you can with the time you have.


Edited by xd_1771 - 5/20/12 at 7:15pm
post #14 of 17
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Originally Posted by grubby99 View Post

My computer seems pretty good about not letting me boot at all with bad RAM settings. Screen stays black and I eventually get an Overclock failed message prompting me to change settings. I have had to let Windows repair itself 2 times now. Only took like 45 seconds so no biggie, but it is still technically dangerous.

There is always the possibility of corrupting program or O/S files with RAM based crashes. The RAM itself won't be damaged but if you crash your O/S enough times you may need to do a fresh install to get everything working properly again. Windoze O/S "repair" works to a point but it can't fix all corrupt files IME.
post #15 of 17
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Originally Posted by AMD4ME View Post

There is always the possibility of corrupting program or O/S files with RAM based crashes. The RAM itself won't be damaged but if you crash your O/S enough times you may need to do a fresh install to get everything working properly again. Windoze O/S "repair" works to a point but it can't fix all corrupt files IME.

Good to know, glad I have not had to use it much then. Had an issue where certain services failed and refused to start. Glad it fixed this (although it would give me a reason to install new HDD already.)
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Originally Posted by xd_1771 View Post

It is false to think that overclocking your memory will provide no gains in every real-world app.  Granted, this depends on the intensiveness of the task, the app, etc.  Damric's tests showed that there was more FPS benefit to be had by improving the memory bandwidth, than by overclocking two GPUs.  Some programs will see a large benefit.  Many programs will see little to no benefit; that doesn't mean that the indeed existing benefits of improved system memory bandwidth on today's platforms should be ignored.  For example: if you find yourself often compressing/decompressing large files with WinRAR, that is where you will see a great benefit with improved bandwidth.

Understood, but I am only seeing a 2-5 fps boost in my current offline gaming and some of my mmo games have a cap of 60 fps anyways. 2-5 fps boost compared to 60-70 fps on average, to me, is negligible. I can see where people can argue the number, but I cannot notice any difference.
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The only thing that could permanently damage your RAM (apart from accidents such as power surges or physical mistreatment) is overvolting them too much.

Thanks for info tongue.gif
post #16 of 17

Files on storage are only corrupted if crashes happen while anything is being written.  You can get a million crashes on boot (i.e. only reads, not writes) and Windows will not corrupt itself and will continue to work when you get a proper RAM replacement or tweak your stability.

post #17 of 17
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Really? I had services become corrupted from my ram settings being all jacked up. Whats up with that then?
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