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so you reinstalled windows and now you can boot?
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Hi,
First time posting, long time lurker. I actually only even consider this board after seeing Sin video review . I just built my system about 3 weeks ago. I was even able to get it to 4.5 on 1.285 volt. This is the first rig I built and I am very proud of it. But I am having issues that really bug me. I have 2 issue. First is the corsair K90 does not work until windows is loaded, I can't get into bios or use it in bios. I have a Dell media keyboard as well and it also does not work, it seem only generic keyboard works. This is ok, for me as I have a generic keyboard lying around. When I start the computer after a full shut down, something it will power up, then shut right off, I will have to press the power button again, sometime I only need to do this once, other times I need to do it 2 or 3 times then it will power on, and give me the "main bios corrupt backing up from back up bios."

Some troubleshooting I have done. I thought that maybe my overclock was unstable and loaded optimal default and tested for a week but the problem still existed. I then updated the bios to F5 for a week, no improvement. I try F6A and for a few days it stopped, but on Thursday it started again. I thought maybe I didn't connect something right or shorting something, so I took everything out, remove the cooler and repaste it with arctic silver thermal compound and still no improvement.

I been reading forums and in the z77 owners forum it appear other have this issue, but I do not see any G1 sniper have this issue. Maybe other do and I have miss it, but I thought it could be bios related and hoping it is not hardware.

I really need my system to be stable more than to overclock or gaming, I play a few game on it . I built this computer to use to test software for my business and later on to run some virtual license server. Losing important files can be very harmful for my company. So far, I am still testing so beside windows, symantec antivirus and drivers to get the system running, I have no other software install. If the board is unstable I still have a week or so left to return it.

When the system is on, it is rock solid. Sleep gives no issue that I notice but I rarely put it to sleep, I just shut it off. Shutting it off is just a personal choice and I believe that if I am not using it, no point in wasting energy, no matter how little energy it could be. So far, I did not have any issue booting into windows after it back up the bios. But I can't be certain that one day it doesn't corrupt or destroy my files once I get to using it heavily, so I do want to get to the bottom of this and would appreciate any insight anyone can offer.

So to recap:
No overclock, default setting: try F5 and F6A bios, took everything out and repaste thermal and temp never go beyond 50c on everyday use. Left computer on overnight, let it sleep and wake up fine. Shut off and then start, get corrupt bios message.

P.S. I clear cmos as well, many times.
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so you reinstalled windows and now you can boot?

No just ran windows repair and fixed boot issue.
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post #144 of 1879
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Hi,
First time posting, long time lurker. I actually only even consider this board after seeing Sin video review . I just built my system about 3 weeks ago. I was even able to get it to 4.5 on 1.285 volt. This is the first rig I built and I am very proud of it. But I am having issues that really bug me. I have 2 issue. First is the corsair K90 does not work until windows is loaded, I can't get into bios or use it in bios. I have a Dell media keyboard as well and it also does not work, it seem only generic keyboard works. This is ok, for me as I have a generic keyboard lying around. When I start the computer after a full shut down, something it will power up, then shut right off, I will have to press the power button again, sometime I only need to do this once, other times I need to do it 2 or 3 times then it will power on, and give me the "main bios corrupt backing up from back up bios."
Some troubleshooting I have done. I thought that maybe my overclock was unstable and loaded optimal default and tested for a week but the problem still existed. I then updated the bios to F5 for a week, no improvement. I try F6A and for a few days it stopped, but on Thursday it started again. I thought maybe I didn't connect something right or shorting something, so I took everything out, remove the cooler and repaste it with arctic silver thermal compound and still no improvement.
I been reading forums and in the z77 owners forum it appear other have this issue, but I do not see any G1 sniper have this issue. Maybe other do and I have miss it, but I thought it could be bios related and hoping it is not hardware.
I really need my system to be stable more than to overclock or gaming, I play a few game on it . I built this computer to use to test software for my business and later on to run some virtual license server. Losing important files can be very harmful for my company. So far, I am still testing so beside windows, symantec antivirus and drivers to get the system running, I have no other software install. If the board is unstable I still have a week or so left to return it.
When the system is on, it is rock solid. Sleep gives no issue that I notice but I rarely put it to sleep, I just shut it off. Shutting it off is just a personal choice and I believe that if I am not using it, no point in wasting energy, no matter how little energy it could be. So far, I did not have any issue booting into windows after it back up the bios. But I can't be certain that one day it doesn't corrupt or destroy my files once I get to using it heavily, so I do want to get to the bottom of this and would appreciate any insight anyone can offer.
So to recap:
No overclock, default setting: try F5 and F6A bios, took everything out and repaste thermal and temp never go beyond 50c on everyday use. Left computer on overnight, let it sleep and wake up fine. Shut off and then start, get corrupt bios message.
P.S. I clear cmos as well, many times.

I have actually not seen anyone get the corrupt BIOS message, unless they actually messed up a BIOS, now tell me when you press the power button and it starts and shuts down, what happens if you let it do its own thing? Like if you wait a few seconds? BTW if you hold down the power button after it has turned on, i believe you can actually trigger this process(i think its a purposeful placement, like if you press the power button, and then press it again right after it turns on and hold it for 10sec, the system will turn off and go into safe mode for the BIOS, that is purposeful).

Also have you tried testing the memory? The Corrupt BIOS thing is a result of the threshold of the dual BIOS set a bit low, so when it detects and issue(s) it can flash the backup to the main BIOS. It wont affect anything in your OS when it flashes over, but this is the first time I have heard of someone who has it happening like that. I mean I have done Ln2 OCing a lot and i don't have this happen. it must be some hardware configuration that is throwing it off. Can you list all your specifications?

The keyboard thing is an issue with your specific brand and as well as a few other gaming keyboards. THe issue is their polling rate is much different than the polling rate of other keyboards, so if they gave you compatibility they would take it away from a lot of other users. Can you use a PS/2 adapter and see if it works? Like USB to PS/2 it shouldn't have issues then.

Can you give me a full system run down.

Also one question, after you flash the BIOS, do you ever load optimized defaults then save and exit? Try this version of F5: http://download.gigabyte.eu/FileList/BIOS/mb_bios_g1.sniper3_f5.exe

There are two, try the one above. After you flash, oh and please flash it through QFLASH in the BIOS, go into the BIOS and load optimized defaults and restart. You can also flash both the main and backup BIOS to the same BIOS, that will help the dual BIOS as well. it is a great feature to have, not many boards have it, and it will protect your system. As you have witnessed it does work lol. Flashing your BIOS or having it do that wont affect your OS, so you wont lose any files, but i understand it is annoying. But I do not think it is a board or BIOS issue, i have a feeling something is wrong with the configurations. As this was a problem with early Z68 GB boards, they would also have the backup flash the main, but now with Z77 you don't see anyone complain about it really. Can you also show me where people complained?
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First off thank you for answering my questions. I never did think about the polling rate, when you mention it, I went into the software to see if I can adjust it. It seem I can't even thought on corsair faq itself it say I can, but the question was asked in corsair forum and it was stated that adjusting the rate isn't allow and the FAQ section is wrong.
http://www.corsair.com/blog/vengeance-gaming-launch-faq
http://forum.corsair.com/forums/showthread.php?t=106457
But at least you gave me an explanation, I really understand compatibility issue since I deal with it everyday as well. This wouldn't have been an issue if I didn't get the corrupt bios and couldn't use the keyboard when it does it, I had to plug in another. Also I did try the ps2 solution but the keyboard doesn't allow it. Also in their FAQ on why they don't allow ps2 adapter to work. But like I say, this I can live with as long as I at least know why. I emailed corsair about it and never got a response like that, only to update firmware and driver. Which I did the moment I got the keyboard of course.

When it shut off, I wait a bit before I push the power button again, I give it 3 minutes generally. Something it goes through it cycle and give the corrupt bios and do the back up, reboot and windows start just fine. Other times I have to press the power button, sometimes twice because it will power up and shut off again. I tend to be very gentle with this system as, even though I intend to use it for work and game, my wife discover Diablo 3 and love plaything it on the computer and will kill me if I damage her "baby" biggrin.gif . I am on bios F4 which shipped with my board since I figure why bother updating to F5 or F6A when it just revert back to F4. I do use and only use q flash because I saw that is what you recommend when I read on your responds to other users on the gigabyte z77 thread; and watch your video on how to share profile on your youtube page.

I ran prime 95 and memtest86 after I set everything to default 2 weeks ago. All passed. I ran prime for about 8 hours, set it when I went to bed and check it before I went to work before shutting the computer down. It passed, temp was around 60c at default setting. I was worry as well that maybe it was memory, even though it could be my power and got new surge protector and tested it on a different power supply, same thing. So I took to the forum and after reading over 225 pages on the z77 page and hearing about people cold boot, I thought it was similar to what I was going through.
http://www.overclock.net/t/1239993/official-gigabyte-z77x-owners-discussion-information-support-thread-and-club-ud5h-ud3h-d3h-and-all
However as most of the questions there were about UD5 or UD3, I figure maybe I might be better off asking fellow G1 owners. This thread is much shorter, to me that mean the sniper 3 has less issues as well. Making my problem more unique I think.

I am out of ideas and figure it has to be a bios issue or I just got a bad board, if it is a bios and can be fix I am ok with it. If it is a bad board, I bought the board at the end of May, so I still have a few days to return for another if it is. I waited this long to write and ask because I wanted to at least give it a week with bios F4,F5 and F6A to test. I will try the bios you link. I also did fill out my rig info before I posted but didn't know I had to show signature. N00b mistake since I like to read more and hardly ever post anything in any forum I visit.

Again thank you for the ideas and assistance.
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Excuse the double post, 4 am here and been trying to figure this out lol. The link to the F5 bios appear to be the one I got off of gigabyte website, if it is the same I tried it. I just want to say that I always load the default after flashing bios ( which I also saw Sin suggested) and after it happen today, I am on F4, just got tire of flashing it all the time when it revert to backup and decided today to leave it on F4.
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hi, i got the gigabyte g1 sniper 3, with a 3770k and 16gb vengeance ram at 1600. i installed by 4 evga gtx 670 4gb SC onto it but the cards arent detected in 4 way SLI. i tried putting the sli connector both ways but to no avail. tri-sli with the trisli bridge runs fine.

anybody knows how to get 4way sli to work on this board?
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post #148 of 1879
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First off thank you for answering my questions. I never did think about the polling rate, when you mention it, I went into the software to see if I can adjust it. It seem I can't even thought on corsair faq itself it say I can, but the question was asked in corsair forum and it was stated that adjusting the rate isn't allow and the FAQ section is wrong.
http://www.corsair.com/blog/vengeance-gaming-launch-faq
http://forum.corsair.com/forums/showthread.php?t=106457
But at least you gave me an explanation, I really understand compatibility issue since I deal with it everyday as well. This wouldn't have been an issue if I didn't get the corrupt bios and couldn't use the keyboard when it does it, I had to plug in another. Also I did try the ps2 solution but the keyboard doesn't allow it. Also in their FAQ on why they don't allow ps2 adapter to work. But like I say, this I can live with as long as I at least know why. I emailed corsair about it and never got a response like that, only to update firmware and driver. Which I did the moment I got the keyboard of course.
When it shut off, I wait a bit before I push the power button again, I give it 3 minutes generally. Something it goes through it cycle and give the corrupt bios and do the back up, reboot and windows start just fine. Other times I have to press the power button, sometimes twice because it will power up and shut off again. I tend to be very gentle with this system as, even though I intend to use it for work and game, my wife discover Diablo 3 and love plaything it on the computer and will kill me if I damage her "baby" biggrin.gif . I am on bios F4 which shipped with my board since I figure why bother updating to F5 or F6A when it just revert back to F4. I do use and only use q flash because I saw that is what you recommend when I read on your responds to other users on the gigabyte z77 thread; and watch your video on how to share profile on your youtube page.
I ran prime 95 and memtest86 after I set everything to default 2 weeks ago. All passed. I ran prime for about 8 hours, set it when I went to bed and check it before I went to work before shutting the computer down. It passed, temp was around 60c at default setting. I was worry as well that maybe it was memory, even though it could be my power and got new surge protector and tested it on a different power supply, same thing. So I took to the forum and after reading over 225 pages on the z77 page and hearing about people cold boot, I thought it was similar to what I was going through.
http://www.overclock.net/t/1239993/official-gigabyte-z77x-owners-discussion-information-support-thread-and-club-ud5h-ud3h-d3h-and-all
However as most of the questions there were about UD5 or UD3, I figure maybe I might be better off asking fellow G1 owners. This thread is much shorter, to me that mean the sniper 3 has less issues as well. Making my problem more unique I think.
I am out of ideas and figure it has to be a bios issue or I just got a bad board, if it is a bios and can be fix I am ok with it. If it is a bad board, I bought the board at the end of May, so I still have a few days to return for another if it is. I waited this long to write and ask because I wanted to at least give it a week with bios F4,F5 and F6A to test. I will try the bios you link. I also did fill out my rig info before I posted but didn't know I had to show signature. N00b mistake since I like to read more and hardly ever post anything in any forum I visit.
Again thank you for the ideas and assistance.
Hey honestly I am thinking you have shorted something, or perhaps you need to get the the store and do a replacement on the board while it is in the return period, bring it back and confirm that the board itself is not the problem. BTW try flashing the main and the backup BIOS, and I messing with the Sniper3 right now trying to see what you did to get it to engage dualbios but i am not getting it to do it lol. A lot of the issues however, let me say this, have to do with the users, many times through the thread you will see very long posts and then you will see the user come back and say sorry it was my fault, and then they created 3 pages of bad talk about the board even though it was the users fault. The users are the issue, as they love to complain, especially when i am there to answer them, that is why you don't see many threads on the UD boards you rather see posts where i answer them. No one has had you issue.

However I need to ask you one question, can you disconnect your cases front panel power, reset, and clear CMOS buttons, and just use those of the motherboard. I actually do remember a user who had an issue like yours, he had this special case, and the special cases power switch wasn't momentary, ti messed with his head so hard.

BTW the length of a thread is in regards to how many users own the board wink.gif As of now the UD5H is GB's best seller, which is VERY VERY odd, because usually the UD3 or UD3H is the best, you can also look at the other manufacturers and see how many boards they have sold to users here by the amount of posts in the threads. Z77 is very odd, as the sabertooth has overtaken the gene, which is a first.

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hi, i got the gigabyte g1 sniper 3, with a 3770k and 16gb vengeance ram at 1600. i installed by 4 evga gtx 670 4gb SC onto it but the cards arent detected in 4 way SLI. i tried putting the sli connector both ways but to no avail. tri-sli with the trisli bridge runs fine.
anybody knows how to get 4way sli to work on this board?
i thought that the GTX670's could not run in quad SLI?
http://news.softpedia.com/news/Currently-Nvidia-s-GeForce-GTX-670-Does-Not-Support-Quad-SLI-269392.shtml
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I did it, finally got my quad evga 4GB 670s Superclocked working in 4-way SLI! thanks everyone on this forum for helping smile.gif
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Sin I try what you suggested and I think I nailed down my booting issue. Ran a few more test and went back and retrace my steps. After reading through a bunch of forums an idea dawn on me. I believe it is due to an unstable overclock, as I remember the very first time I overclock, when it was unstable it did give me a corrupt bios message when I try to boot up after a normal shutdown. It was the first time I had it happen. I cleared cmos and kept testing until I got what I thought was a stable OC. It seem my OC was not as stable as i thought, even though it didn't give me any error in stress test and never gave any problems in day to day use. However, it is somehow still unstable.

So I loaded my profile and it did it again, corrupt bios on boot up. The only thing I did different this time when it gave me the corrupted bios screen after starting the computer was I let it go through the process of loading and booting up from the backup bios, then have the computer power off and this time, I unplug power cord from power supply and clear cmos. So far, almost 5 days and never have the bios corrupt from booting up from a shut down. I never did bother to clear cmos the other 3 times. In my head I kept thinking, I loaded optimal default already, no need to clear cmos. Also, I have to admit I was lazy as well, no external clear cmos button and I didn't want to open the case everytime as I have my case on a very high shelf. Pointer to gigabyte, external clear cmos somewhere on the rear I/O panel can be useful. lolzx wink.gif Guess loading optimal default isn't enough and cmos still needs to be clear.

So yes, clear cmos people, even after loading optimal default. Working as a sysadmin too, most problem like 90% is cause by the user hahaha. Not afraid to admit i mess up, being just a bit lazy actually cause me more days of lost sleep , test and headache. Disobey one of the rule of IT - Keep It Simple Stupid lolzx. My problem had such an easy fix, just had to hit clear cmos after loading default. Will report back but as it been almost a week, I am more than confident this was the cause of my problem.

I went back to F6A because i don't think F4 or F5 is stable for me, on F4 and F5 even if I set my BCLK to 100 it was still jumping to between 99.4 and 99.8 but F6A it is running without deviation on 100 BCLK. Don't know how much of an issue that is but as I said, I am looking for stability, F6A just makes me feel better. Now if gigabyte or corsair ever fix the Keyboard issue, I am golden. I know I know, i am reaching now biggrin.gif

Beside my own absent mindedness I do want to thank all the ideas and suggestions. I would have probably miss such a simple thing on my own. Really wanted to figure this out as I really do love this board and that duel bios has proven to be invaluable.





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