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post #2631 of 2693
I was hoping I could get a little help. I've read all through this thread and it seems I have one of the bad cards. I bought it back in June 2012 and installed it into my PC at that time. But I didn't get around to testing it in any of my even slightly rigorous games because I had no electricity in my house for months from the hurricane in the NE, but anyway....

I have never overclocked before, I bought the TOP so that it would just work... and sadly it does not. At this point, I don't really want to RMA it. I can't afford not to be without a computer, so I just want to get this card as stable as possible.

I ran Heaven and it only gets about half way through and then crashes to desktop. I can't even play the Witcher without it giving me crash logs randomly. It doesn't give me any BSODs or RSODs, just flashing black and crashing to desktop. It goes up to 1241.1MHz runs for about 3 minutes, slowly creeps up to 67C and then crashes.

I still have the original drivers installed, should I upgrade to the latest driver (or could that possibly make it worse?) If I do can I update it on top of the original or should I uninstall the current one first?

How do I go about down clocking it and altering the fan speeds? I only want to do the bare minimum to get it stable. Will I need to use the ASUS GPU Tweak or can I alter them directly in my bios? I hear the GPU Tweak causes a bunch of its own issues so I haven't installed it yet. Ugh, what a mess.
Edited by Penarddun - 3/30/13 at 5:58pm
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post #2632 of 2693
First off, the TOP model was riddled with unstable problems out of the box to which Asus rectified the problem with a simple bios update. This update will reduce your max boost and therefore improve your stability, what it wont do or is unlikely to do is make your card able to overclock beyond or near the original 1241 max boost unfortunately but you should get near 1200 which is close enough.

(Bios is found on Asus support page)

Update to the latest drivers, these also altered the boost table to improve stability, 314.22 is think is the latest.

I would recommend using EVGA precision X for overclocking and fan profile setting, I have been using it for almost 10 months with no issues.
Edited by nemm - 3/30/13 at 6:34pm
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Seems like I only can get 1254MHz (Effective max clock) and a memory clock of 3300MHz on my card, is that bad? Others seem to get 1300MHz+ on their GTX 670's frown.gif

You sure you can only get 3300memory? that seems quite low. Have you tried higher? Does it driver crash? For my non-top card I can get 3654memory. Drivers don't crash but EVGA OC scanner will show 1-3 artifacts, so I backed off, found it stable at 3654... 1254 is also my max clock. I can do 1280 on some non-tessellation games but once there's tessellation, gotta back off to 1254mhz. I'm also on water though and my card never goes over 55C so I'm pretty happy.
post #2634 of 2693
@nemm - Thanks a lot. I just downloaded Precision X. Do you think there is any way I can make my card stable without updating the bios?

I went and ran Heaven again and this time it lasted until about 23/26 (it seems to last longer when I max settings) but then it crashed.

This is what was going on while it was running though..



Would it be worth it to just up the fan and lower the clock a bit and see if that fixes everything? If I add this profile in Precision X, do I need to have it running all the time, in order for the profile to be applied to the GPU? Or can I just apply it permanently?

Edit: I increased my fan speeds a lot to see what would happen and I managed to get through a Heaven without it crashing, not max though. So could it be that I just need to fix the fan profile? Is it bad to keep my GPU fan higher than normal? Will it wear out the card (the extra noise doesn't bother me). But keeping my temps at 57C stopped it from crashing.... I wonder why the fans were running so low by default. :/


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post #2635 of 2693
If you don't want to flash the bios you can update the drivers, they alter the boost tables for better stability so I would try that first.. In my opinion the bios flash with the Asus released bios will save the headache of stabilizing the boost clock manually via software

As for fan profiles I used the profile of 40% @30deg all the way up to 100% @70deg without problems. They're set so low at default for an advertising standpoint that they run very quiet.

If you have set the fan profile and managed to stabilize the clocks via software then the software needs to run all the time.
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If you don't want to flash the bios you can update the drivers, they alter the boost tables for better stability so I would try that first.. In my opinion the bios flash with the Asus released bios will save the headache of stabilizing the boost clock manually via software

As for fan profiles I used the profile of 40% @30deg all the way up to 100% @70deg without problems. They're set so low at default for an advertising standpoint that they run very quiet.


If you have set the fan profile and managed to stabilize the clocks via software then the software needs to run all the time.

Totally agreed....funny thing is, even with the fan speed cranked up, its still damn quiet....even at 75% fan speed, that thing is damn near silent....haha
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post #2637 of 2693
Just update the bios. It's not safe really to use it when the one you're using is known to be problematic. There's not much reason not to and turning clocks down and fans up is not a solution. That's a patch job that will not mean the card is stable really. Thats like taping a rifle together rather than using the screws and bolts.
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I wasn't super thrilled that I would need to run Precision X constantly just to keep my fan profile in place. I will think about the bios update. Maybe in a week or two I'll try it and hope for the best.

Does Precision X interfere with any programs (for those who run it consistently) or can it pretty much just stay in the background when playing any games?

Right now, I haven't touched my clocks or power or anything except the fan profile, so it's still sitting at the 1241.1MHz when I play games/heaven (which seems to be it's default boost).

I set the fans at 30% @30C, and 70% @60C, and then 100% @80C. It is staying at 58C when running Heaven on max and is really quiet even with the higher fan.

Do any of the driver updates or new bios change the default fan profile? So it won't sit at 10% and only go to 44%?
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You have the option of modifying your current BIOS via firmware tools to change the fan profile only.

Check out this massive thread:

http://www.overclock.net/t/1289489/gtx-600-series-unlocked-voltage-bios-downloads-and-tools/0_40
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penarddun, also set your voltage and power target sliders to max. that will also help you stay stable. when it reaches 100% power target it goes over as gpu-z shows. it wants more power to run that clock. also by setting the voltage slider at max, it will keep the card from dropping under 1.175v under load and causing crashes when it goes from light load to full load and it cant adjust the voltage quick enough.
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