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Do you have Afterburner, Precision-X or Asus GPU tweak set to run when windows starts? Just to be safe (in-case they are), revert your overclock in precision-X to default values, hit apply, and then restart your computer.

I reset everything to default with Precision X, applied changes, restarted, ran Heaven, and still only about 30 fps. I think I'm going to try reinstalling the nVidia driver and see if that fixes it.


Just uninstalled and reinstalled the nVidia driver. Still only 30 fps in Heaven frown.gif
Edited by xpinsx - 6/1/12 at 11:53pm
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That's like saying when the intel i5/i7 first came out that it wasn't designed to Turbo boost to 3.6GHz because it's normal load frequency was 2.33GHz (ie, what it said on the box). The same principle applies to the Kepler cards. If the card is not constrained by power or thermals, it will clock higher to maximize performance. Asus is well aware of this feature. The problem is, they just chose an factory overclock that's too high for some of these 670's to handle and/or they didn't test the TOP series well enough. It could easily be fixed with a bios update that drops the Boost Clock by 20MHz. By the way, the Asus cards don't crash anymore than any other card at reference clocks. If someone took a weak overclocking Gigabyte card (say the dozens of cards that can't break 1220 with +0 on the memory), and suddenly overclocked it to 1267 like the factory OC asus, it would crash all day long too.
But will say, i think Asus did a poor job binning and/or testing the TOP models. They should all easily break 1267MHz without breaking a sweat. People shouldn't have to downclock the TOP models to be stable.

Well, to be a bit more precise, what Asus OC'd it to is 1137 Boost Clock ... the additional KB is (I'm fairly certain) intrinsic to the chip itself, not something that's done by Asus, i.e. not something programmed into the bios.

I think it's fairly safe to say that GB chose their stock Boost Clock of 1059MHz a bit more wisely, given the range of possible KB's, and taking into account what core clocks could actually be sustained by all samples of these cards.

I mean, heck if people are cool with downclocking the boost a little on their TOP's to get their card stable, I say go for it. However the point brought up by someone above that it could lower re-sale value, that's worth considering. It's also worth thinking about the fact that ... yeah ... basically, some of these cards are 'broken' because Asus got too aggressive with the boost clock level ... I certainly wouldn't fault anyone for taking the opposite approach and sending such a card back either thumb.gif
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So glad I am a lucky one. I got TWO beast TOP cards!

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Well, to be a bit more precise, what Asus OC'd it to is 1137 Boost Clock ... the additional KB is (I'm fairly certain) intrinsic to the chip itself, not something that's done by Asus, i.e. not something programmed into the bios.
I think it's fairly safe to say that GB chose their stock Boost Clock of 1059MHz a bit more wisely, given the range of possible KB's, and taking into account what core clocks could actually be sustained by all samples of these cards.
I mean, heck if people are cool with downclocking the boost a little on their TOP's to get their card stable, I say go for it. However the point brought up by someone above that it could lower re-sale value, that's worth considering. It's also worth thinking about the fact that ... yeah ... basically, some of these cards are 'broken' because Asus got too aggressive with the boost clock level ... I certainly wouldn't fault anyone for taking the opposite approach and sending such a card back either thumb.gif

I might be misinterpreting what you're trying to say, but in my original post i literally meant they could release a bios update that would reduce the Boost Clock by ~20MHz. I didn't mean the static Kepler Boost that's unique to the chip and unchangeable with a bios update. If Asus was to do that, it would fix most of the 'stock' crashing and then there really wouldn't be any problem with the resale value.

I'm personally planning on RMA'ing my Asus TOP if i don't see an announcement by Asus to fix them with a bios update in the next two weeks. I got my card stable once i maxed out the voltage slider and power target, i even managed +21 (1263MHz maximum boosted core frequency) and +680 (7,364MHz) on the memory (100% heaven/BF3 stable), but my card still crashes at stock settings without the voltage bump in precision-X. So it would be next to impossible to ever resell it even though it's a 'decent' enough overclocker. cryingsmiley.gif
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It looks like I may have to RMA as well. I was only able to OC +11 and +400 stable in Heaven, but uber crashes in BF3. I even tried downclocking it by 10 and 20 and the damn thing still freaks out. How is Newegg's RMA service, never had to use it until now.
    
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I personally think the manufaturers dont understand nvidias boost yet, its odd how this "kepler boost" or higher clocked than advertised cards are so frequent, I wont complain though so long as its stable biggrin.gif But I hope we see software mature to better control things. Im also curious how many of these top cards are having the crashes from vrm/memory overheating? I think its odd how asus has the max at 117-120% or so when other dual 6pin have more.
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Right on thanks for the reply. Something I can compare to... It is probably my ambient. Above the garage + wife keeps the house at a sauna level. It is 78 degrees currently. That may have something to do with it tongue.gif
I will try to up my fan profile to be more aggressive like yours. Long as I can keep it under 70c I am a happy camper.

yes keeping it under 70c makes a difference in benching for sure, gaming probably less noticeable but worth it

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Ok am I missing something here. Your getting 69/70c on a haf x overclocked? I'm getting 77c playin bf3 on ultra 1080p @ stock factory oc. And when I put a gigabyte windforce gtx670 it never goes past 70c. The gigabyte stays at a constant 1150 while the asus stays around 1189 as soon as it hits 75c

I had a regular 670 dcii and in 78F ambient I needed either 70 or 80% to keep it at 68c with boost in the 1050mhz range, my FTW card at 70% is about 69-70c in those same ambients (at 1215mhz) too but once the ac is fired up and ambient is at 72F things are much better in the low to mid 60's. Im kinda thinking these gpu's since have a smaller die are having a little bit of a heat dissipation issue, well one that isnt too bad to manage, but a little as opposed to fermi. Im using a poor air flow case (tj08-e)

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I dont get it... Once my card hits 70c I can visually see my clock reduce itself. What am I missing?

Like others said normal

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Sorry if I came off rude. I just ran heaven and turned the fan to 30%. As soon as it hit 70c it dropped the core and the voltage. Been like that on both my 670's. Yours seems weird but oh well.

Yup wish mine didnt downclock at 70c lol

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Just restarted, tried Heaven at stock frequency, and the problem is there. Is it possible that it's still in 2d mode after restarting somehow?

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I reset everything to default with Precision X, applied changes, restarted, ran Heaven, and still only about 30 fps. I think I'm going to try reinstalling the nVidia driver and see if that fixes it.
Just uninstalled and reinstalled the nVidia driver. Still only 30 fps in Heaven frown.gif

I dont have gpu tweek on in front of me now but check there, i think there is a setting to manually set to 2d mode, and if its set to boot to that, you might be getting that low score. Or try uninstalling it.
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Hi everyone, just joined up smile.gif anyway, I am quite interested in this card and I was just wondering if it's worth paying the extra £10 over some of the other 670's? Cheers everyone smile.gif
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I dont have gpu tweek on in front of me now but check there, i think there is a setting to manually set to 2d mode, and if its set to boot to that, you might be getting that low score. Or try uninstalling it.

Thanks for adding this, however there is a problem (somehow). I try clicking the button that would allow me to change it from 2d to 3d or vice versa, but it's not clickable. I have no idea why, and this is currently the only gpu overclocking utility I have installed on my computer (uninstalled Precision X to try it). So now I'm really confused as to what is going on. I think I'm going to try spending some more time on the google and seeing if I can find a solution, but of all the things I've found and tried so far, none have worked. I may just call ASUS and ask about it.

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Hi everyone, just joined up smile.gif anyway, I am quite interested in this card and I was just wondering if it's worth paying the extra £10 over some of the other 670's? Cheers everyone smile.gif

Well, in my particular case, it worked great until this 2d mode problem started showing up. I did experience various instances of Heaven crashing, even at the stock frequency, but after letting my computer sit for awhile, Heaven would cycle through all 26 sequences no problem (so heating was probably the issue.) The card ran pretty cool while it was behaving properly, but unless I get this issue sorted out and am able to get the card stable with a decent overclock, I'm going to be sending it back. I can't say that I'm too pleased with it at the moment.
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OK for those that still think this card is NOT crap, this card has a lot of issue, this is a list of every complaint so far about the card. and take into account that i focused myself on crashing, there are plenty of issue on drivers, software comparability, OC performance, Temps above normal etc etc etc
SO THIS CARD IS NOT AS GOOD AS DEFENDERS THINK IT IS.... THANKS thumb.gif
[*] Darylrese post #122 of 779
[*] I've had 2 RED SCREENS OF DEATH but nothing since yesterday when i first put it in...they were when i first fitted and started clicking around opening multiple 3rd party moniting tools. Looking on google, this seems to be a driver issue or a third party software issue? I havent had it since.
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[*] dogimed post #154 of 780
[*] Well, got my Asus Top today. Ran 3DMark and the 3rd scene it froze on me. Turned off my comp and back on and no freakin display. Plugged monitor back in onboard and it works, damn I think my motherboards pci-e slot is dead. What happened was, I overclocked my cpu to 4.4 and ran prime for 3 hours no problem. Insert new card in, ran 3DMark and it froze. Changed it back to onboard and it worked, tried to troubleshoot it, updated BIOS and all. Rebooted comp and all of a sudden I can't even get past post screen. Tried to put the card in another comp and it doesn't work either.
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[*] javaneze post #385 of 782
[*] I just got my 670 DC2Top couple of days ago and run into some trouble.
[*] The card gets a 1228 MHz boost clock speed on its own according to gpuz.
[*] Trouble is, running unigine heaven crashes the nvidia driver and the benchmark won't finish.
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[*] Creator post #509 of 787
[*] Mine is also crashing Unigine at stock. I installed the newest drivers (Driver Sweeper used to remove residuals) and made a custom fan profile so that my card reached 66C max, and this time it lasted around 10 minutes instead 2-3 before it crashed.
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[*] Gauntlet3h
[*] Yeah it most definitely is the boost. Mine gets boosted to 1240. I down clocked it -10 to 1230 and it passes Heaven. Pretty sad that I have to downclock to get the card stable. I'm still thinking about RMAing it.
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[*] acidrender post #532 of 788
[*] Hi guys,
[*] to all of you having problems with crashing DCUII TOP in benchmarks and games, you need to RMA your cards.
[*] I bought my Asus DCUII TOP last week (scan.co.uk). For 2 days i was trying to test the card for the stability but sadly the card was crashing on Unigine Heaven, 3dmark Vantage, Battlefield 3 & Skyrim.
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[*] balancebox post #534 of 788
[*] the only problem with my asus top is the red screen of death lol after removing asus gpu tweaker it hasn't occur again :/
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[*] Kosire post #537 of 788
[*] Woah, ASUS I am dissapoint.
[*] Got my TOP yesterday and decided to try Unigine since you guys had problems.. Guess what? Me too.. Wonderful.
[*] A factory overclocked card overclocking way more than listed and causing it to crash, that's just WRONG.
[*] It's obvious that ASUS has a problem here with the TOP models.
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[*] robobzzoy post #583 of 789
[*] I got mine (2x) in on Tuesday, and only had one crash while running Heaven the first time. I changed the pci-e mode from Gen2 to Gen3 (asrock bios) and everything has worked swimmingly so far.
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[*] EM2J post #645 of 789
[*] Hey guys and gals just got my TOP. Out of the box the boost is 1267mhz, but it crashes in heaven after 5 minutes. Raised power target to 117% (max in precision) and memory clock +300 and it lasted about 10 minutes in heaven. So obviously the core isn't stable and I have to go negative, bummer.
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[*] lightsout post #646 of 789
[*] I would definitely RMA if my card wasn't stable at stock boost. Does Asus realize how much these cards are boosting above 1137? It doesn't seem like it.
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[*] damtachoa post #650 of 789
[*] It boosted to 1241 at 63C temp of 55% fan speed. It crashed me on the first try. After setting Threaded Optimization on, it passed the test at stock.
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[*] Helltech post #667 of 790
[*] Ugh, getting a ton of red screens of death. Only been using the card for 3 hours and its happened 3 times. I always have SpeedFan on, so I believe that is the cause of the problem, which sucks.
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[*] Thereoncewasamaninparis post #707 of 790
[*] Getting a crash in unigine
[*] d3d11appwindow::swap_window(): device removed unigine
[*] Looks like the card is unstable from what everyone else seeing this msg has said. Mine is stock.
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[*] Alexxfox post #737 of 790
[*] I payed more money for the Asus overclocking and it doesn't work on stock settings.
[*] And if I would like to sell the card in maybe 2 years on ebay, the buyer would be extremly dissappointed of getting a crashing card from me..
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[*] mikami post #765 of 790
[*] alright just got my card (asus top oc version). My gigabyte windforce gtx 670 that I just took out stayed around 70/71c, but my asus top hits 77c after 30 min in bf3 in a storm sniper case. so I'm not sure if this is normal because of the factory oc?? Havent touched any settings

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EliteReplay a little update on mine. It turns out there was nothing wrong with my motherboard, the card died on me after benchmarking in 3DMark and when I tried to fiddle with getting it to work, I somehow corrupted Windows. Had to format my SSD and it worked again, but yeah the card was dead so I returned it to Superbiiz and got another one from Newegg. Tried it on 2 other comps and it didn't work.

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It looks like I may have to RMA as well. I was only able to OC +11 and +400 stable in Heaven, but uber crashes in BF3. I even tried downclocking it by 10 and 20 and the damn thing still freaks out. How is Newegg's RMA service, never had to use it until now.

**** you're having me worried because that's almost the exact same settings as mine. I can get +10 and +500 stable. But i'm not overclocking it now, just only on benches. I don't have BF3 to test if it'll crash or not, lol.
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