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Great day! That is a nice stable out of the box clock. The highest I can go with OC is ~1286... my out of the box was only 1241. Looks like you got a great chip. Still, if I can run stable out of the box, I got what I paid for smile.gif
my out of the box is 1280, but i can't OC core any more, only memory. still, i'm very happy. now all i need is the damned vsync fix from nvidia.
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Great day! That is a nice stable out of the box clock. The highest I can go with OC is ~1286... my out of the box was only 1241. Looks like you got a great chip. Still, if I can run stable out of the box, I got what I paid for smile.gif
my out of the box is 1280, but i can't OC core any more, only memory. still, i'm very happy. now all i need is the damned vsync fix from nvidia.
Do you have problems when running adaptive vsync? Its butter smooth for me.
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Ok here you go and I am only doing this once but I have observed it about 5 times now and it is clearly the instant it hits 70c. This is with a non top DCII.
I have the red arrows pointing to the values that matter. I hovered my mouse over that point in the graph so you could see what they were all doing at the same time.
Before 70c Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
700
After 70c
700

Perhaps then it's safe to assume either only the Asus TOP version (or specifically just my Asus TOP) doesn't throttle until 79C and then again at 80C. Your test isn't 100% conclusive though because the power percent is quite variable and you could have hit a power percent throttle point right before you also hit 70C and and then your GPU would throttle 13MHz and subsequently also drop the power percent. I only say this because you were at 113% at 69C and then at 70C (when you throttled) your power percent dropped to 103%. I'm only pointing this out, not saying this is what happened. I definitely looks like you're being throttled by temperature and not power though. So for now, we can say the Non-TOP Asus 670 does throttle at 70C.

But i re-ran my test just to be sure and i got the exact same results:
545

Zoomed it in to make it easier to see. But you see my core is 100% constant at 1262 all the way up to 79C and then i start getting thermal oscillation where it's going between 1262, 1254, and 1241, and then once i hit 80C it flatlines at 1241MHz and then right at the end my fan kicked in to 100% and my temperature dropped below 80C and my core went up to 1254MHz. Notice my power percent is nearly constant the entire time so you can definitely say my power percent had nothing to do with any of these changes.

It would be really helpful if someone else with an Asus TOP could repeat this test so we could know for sure frown.gif
Edited by SeanPoe - 6/2/12 at 10:48am
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My TOP throttles down if temp is above 70C, but only in certain situation, for example when running Heaven. I tried BF3, temp reached 73C and no throttling. So it also depends on a game/program you are running, not just temp.

For me this isn't a problem, I just use custom fan setting and never reach 70C. I wish Asus would release firmware with more aggressive fan setting thou, so we don't have to rely on 3rd party app to fix this.
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My TOP throttles down if temp is above 70C, but only in certain situation, for example when running Heaven. I tried BF3, temp reached 73C and no throttling. So it also depends on a game/program you are running, not just temp.
For me this isn't a problem, I just use custom fan setting and never reach 70C. I wish Asus would release firmware with more aggressive fan setting thou, so we don't have to rely on 3rd party app to fix this.

Or you're misinterpreting power percent throttle for thermal throttle. Either you throttle at a certain temperature all of the time or you don't at all. There's no variable about it whatsoever. However, when temperature goes up, so does power percent (power = heat), so it's easy to mistake one for the other.

Glottis, can you please just do this very simple test I've described above in this post? It will take you 3 minutes and then we will know for sure. I designed this test to remove the power percent element from the equation.
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Ok here you go and I am only doing this once but I have observed it about 5 times now and it is clearly the instant it hits 70c. This is with a non top DCII.
I have the red arrows pointing to the values that matter. I hovered my mouse over that point in the graph so you could see what they were all doing at the same time.
Before 70c Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
700
After 70c
700

Perhaps then it's safe to assume either only the Asus TOP version (or specifically just my Asus TOP) doesn't throttle until 79C and then again at 80C. Your test isn't 100% conclusive though because the power percent is quite variable and you could have hit a power percent throttle point right before you also hit 70C and and then your GPU would throttle 13MHz and subsequently also drop the power percent. I only say this because you were at 113% at 69C and then at 70C (when you throttled) your power percent dropped to 103%. I'm only pointing this out, not saying this is what happened. I definitely looks like you're being throttled by temperature and not power though. So for now, we can say the Non-TOP Asus 670 does throttle at 70C.

But i re-ran my test just to be sure and i got the exact same results:
545

Zoomed it in to make it easier to see. But you see my core is 100% constant at 1262 all the way up to 79C and then i start getting thermal oscillation where it's going between 1262, 1254, and 1241, and then once i hit 80C it flatlines at 1241MHz and then right at the end my fan kicked in to 100% and my temperature dropped below 80C and my core went up to 1254MHz. Notice my power percent is nearly constant the entire time so you can definitely say my power percent had nothing to do with any of these changes.

It would be really helpful if someone else with an Asus TOP could repeat this test so we could know for sure frown.gif
Just won't let it go will you. Its not the power limit I have seen it happen many times. Exactly when it hits 70c. Its not hitting the exact power limit also every single time. And I am pretty sure this is in hardware so top or not shouldn't matter should it?
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Just won't let it go will you. Its not the power limit I have seen it happen many times. Exactly when it hits 70c. Its not hitting the exact power limit also every single time. And I am pretty sure this is in hardware so top or not shouldn't matter should it?

You love to read between the lines, don't you? tongue.gif I said, "It definitely looks like you're being throttled by temperature and not power though. So for now, we can say the Non-TOP Asus 670 does throttle at 70C."

I only pointed out the power percent because it's statistically relevant. It would be foolish to completely ignore it. But like i said, I'm agreeing that your throttle is caused by temperature AND NOT power. thumb.gif

So your non-top appears to throttle at 70C, my TOP appears to throttle at 79C, why would i let go of it so hastily when we don't have a conclusive answer yet? All I'm asking is for a couple more Asus 670 owners (specifically TOP owners) to run this three minute test so we can know if my card is an anomaly or not -_-
Edited by SeanPoe - 6/2/12 at 11:38am
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edit; found it, ill post my fan curve when im done for verification
Edited by Fallacy - 6/2/12 at 11:48am
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I've been following this thread from the beginning, and I thought I'd chime in with my non-TOP experience.

When I first installed the card, I was seeing randomly occurring red screens of death. Some searching seemed to indicate that it was not a card issue, but an issue with the ASUS Tweak software. I have uninstalled it and have been using Precision X without issue since then.

I'm not trying to set any overclocking records, but I have been able to get some good performance out of this non-TOP card.

357

+170 on the GPU with a max clock at 1254, +200 on memory just for fun. I bumped up voltage a little bit to 1025 after I overclocked the memory and it has run numerous stable Heaven benchmarks and a couple 3dmark11 runs without issue as well. Here are my 3dmark results: http://3dmark.com/3dm11/3568825

Hopefully this fleshes out some information about the less-popular non-TOP Asus 670 GTX.
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heres my score on heaven

338

Am I suppose to have precision x open during the benchmark/playing games/etc or do u close the app after making changes

I also had the onscreen monitor enabled

How do I monitor the clocks and temp when heaven is running full screen?

how is that score? (stock TOP)

thanks
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