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Thanks everyone for the help!
A bunch of you guys are recommending Ivy Bridge, but I've seen mixed results about if it's worth it. This will mostly be for gaming and browsing the Internet. Nothing relating to photoshop or video editing. Does IB have advantages in daily use?
Also, you guys mentioned that the saber tooth was overkill. If I go for sandy bridge, what would be a good mobo to go for? If I go ivy what would be a good one? (the asrock mentioned above looks solid, but they have some cheaper boards that look the exact same). I'm currently looking at the asrock z77 either gen3 or gen4. They have pcie 3.0, which I'm assuming is better now? Maybe not?
Also, is it worth getting 16 GB of ram? I could spend an extra 50 bucks and get 16 if it's worth it.
If I can save money, that would be awesome. I could use it for future upgrades.
I'm not so sure on a cooling setup. I might upgrade that in the future, just to save money now. Do I need a cooler to OC the ivy? Again, this is pretty much soley for gaming.
Thanks for everyone's help! Rep for everyone that helped when I get on my laptop either today or tomorrow!


If you don't go with the P77 go with the P68Vpro its a really good Mobo. You dont really need 16gb of ram unless you are rendering stuff for video or engineer software-> for gaming 8 gb will do just fine.
depending on how high you are planning on OC you best get a cooler for it, especially if its an ivy proccesor.
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If it were me I would go with an H100 if I could fit it in my case, and if not get the H80. They are excellent performers and you really can't get much better without going with a custom WC loop.

Here's a good unboxing/quick review of the H100.

Sounds good! I'm a little hesitant about wc, so how decent would a standard cooler work? Not nearly as well?

And would I need a better thermal paste?
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Thanks everyone for the help!
A bunch of you guys are recommending Ivy Bridge, but I've seen mixed results about if it's worth it. This will mostly be for gaming and browsing the Internet. Nothing relating to photoshop or video editing. Does IB have advantages in daily use?
Also, you guys mentioned that the saber tooth was overkill. If I go for sandy bridge, what would be a good mobo to go for? If I go ivy what would be a good one? (the asrock mentioned above looks solid, but they have some cheaper boards that look the exact same). I'm currently looking at the asrock z77 either gen3 or gen4. They have pcie 3.0, which I'm assuming is better now? Maybe not?
Also, is it worth getting 16 GB of ram? I could spend an extra 50 bucks and get 16 if it's worth it.
If I can save money, that would be awesome. I could use it for future upgrades.
I'm not so sure on a cooling setup. I might upgrade that in the future, just to save money now. Do I need a cooler to OC the ivy? Again, this is pretty much soley for gaming.
Thanks for everyone's help! Rep for everyone that helped when I get on my laptop either today or tomorrow!


If you don't go with the P77 go with the P68Vpro its a really good Mobo. You dont really need 16gb of ram unless you are rendering stuff for video or engineer software-> for gaming 8 gb will do just fine.
depending on how high you are planning on OC you best get a cooler for it, especially if its an ivy proccesor.

Sounds good. Thanks for the info!

Any big advantage to either mobo?

Any thoughts on a cooler that will fit? Would you do an ivy or a sandy?
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Sounds good! I'm a little hesitant about wc, so how decent would a standard cooler work? Not nearly as well?
And would I need a better thermal paste?

Although it's a water cooling system, it is just as simple as an air cooler. There is zero maintenance and nothing to put together. It is pre-filled and sealed. However if an air cooler is what you wanted there are option that will perform close to the Corsair Hydro Sereies, however they are all going to be giant chunks of metal. The Noctua D-14 is one of the best performing air coolers.

Most coolers will come with a decent thermal paste pre-applied so you do not have to use any the first time you install it. However, if you ever take it off and re-seat it you will need thermal paste.

Also, about certain coolers fitting in your system. They are almost always going to be limited by the case and not the motherboard. As long as you're talking about a normal ATX mobo and not a micro, you really shouldn't have any problems except in extreme cases.
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For $2000 you should easily be getting SLI 670s. I would not wait for a 680, they are only slightly better than a 670.

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Sounds good! I'm a little hesitant about wc, so how decent would a standard cooler work? Not nearly as well?
And would I need a better thermal paste?

Although it's a water cooling system, it is just as simple as an air cooler. There is zero maintenance and nothing to put together. It is pre-filled and sealed. However if an air cooler is what you wanted there are option that will perform close to the Corsair Hydro Sereies, however they are all going to be giant chunks of metal. The Noctua D-14 is one of the best performing air coolers.

Most coolers will come with a decent thermal paste pre-applied so you do not have to use any the first time you install it. However, if you ever take it off and re-seat it you will need thermal paste.

Also, about certain coolers fitting in your system. They are almost always going to be limited by the case and not the motherboard. As long as you're talking about a normal ATX mobo and not a micro, you really shouldn't have any problems except in extreme cases.

Sounds good, thanks for all the info! If I have any more questions I'll definitely post.
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For $2000 you should easily be getting SLI 670s. I would not wait for a 680, they are only slightly better than a 670.

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Holy smokes, I hadn't really considered this as an option. All of that stuff looks good. Just a few thoughts...

Could I swap the EVGA 670s for gigabyte 670s? I've never don't SLI, so I wouldn't really have an idea on how well it works.

Would that power supply be enough? I know you know more than I do, but I've always seen 850 with SLI but I don't know.

Also, would the g skill ram posted earlier work better or worse than the memory you posted?

Thanks for the great idea, ill definitely consider this. I don't have a microcenter within 300 miles, so I'll have to get alternatives online but that shouldn't be too difficult.

Also, I've never purchased computer stuff from amazon. Are they just as good as newegg with rma stuff?

I'll rep ya when I get on my laptop.

Thanks again!
Edited by bigal1542 - 5/20/12 at 3:58pm
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Holy smokes, I hadn't really considered this as an option. All of that stuff looks good. Just a few thoughts...
Could I swap the EVGA 670s for gigabyte 670s? I've never don't SLI, so I wouldn't really have an idea on how well it works.
Would that power supply be enough? I know you know more than I do, but I've always seen 850 with SLI but I don't know.
Also, would the g skill ram posted earlier work better or worse than the memory you posted?
Thanks for the great idea, ill definitely consider this. I don't have a microcenter within 300 miles, so I'll have to get alternatives online but that shouldn't be too difficult.
Also, I've never purchased computer stuff from amazon. Are they just as good as newegg with rma stuff?
I'll rep ya when I get on my laptop.
Thanks again!


750W is plenty, 750W runs 570 SLI and they use more power than 680s, since 670s use even less power than 680s, a quality 750W, like the TX750 is fine.

After they are both overclocked, the Samsung ram will come out superior. But you will not notice a difference between the two when gaming.

I love amazon, I havent had to return anything though. But usually when you RMA something after 30 days, it needs to go right to the manufacturer anyway.
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Holy smokes, I hadn't really considered this as an option. All of that stuff looks good. Just a few thoughts...
Could I swap the EVGA 670s for gigabyte 670s? I've never don't SLI, so I wouldn't really have an idea on how well it works.
Would that power supply be enough? I know you know more than I do, but I've always seen 850 with SLI but I don't know.
Also, would the g skill ram posted earlier work better or worse than the memory you posted?
Thanks for the great idea, ill definitely consider this. I don't have a microcenter within 300 miles, so I'll have to get alternatives online but that shouldn't be too difficult.
Also, I've never purchased computer stuff from amazon. Are they just as good as newegg with rma stuff?
I'll rep ya when I get on my laptop.
Thanks again!


750W is plenty, 750W runs 570 SLI and they use more power than 680s, since 670s use even less power than 680s, a quality 750W, like the TX750 is fine.

After they are both overclocked, the Samsung ram will come out superior. But you will not notice a difference between the two when gaming.

I love amazon, I havent had to return anything though. But usually when you RMA something after 30 days, it needs to go right to the manufacturer anyway.

Thanks again for all the awesome help.

My last consideration would be is SLI 670s worth it or should I get better other parts and upgrade the gpu in a year or so? I've just seen so much about SLI problems both issues and scaling not being that great.

A specific question is what's the better 670 to go with? I could get the EVGA, but would it be better to go with the gigabyte ones if possible? Or would the airflow be too restricted, again I'm a noob here lol

Just something new for me so I want to test the water tongue.gif

Thanks again!
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Thanks again for all the awesome help.
My last consideration would be is SLI 670s worth it or should I get better other parts and upgrade the gpu in a year or so? I've just seen so much about SLI problems both issues and scaling not being that great.
A specific question is what's the better 670 to go with? I could get the EVGA, but would it be better to go with the gigabyte ones if possible? Or would the airflow be too restricted, again I'm a noob here lol
Just something new for me so I want to test the water tongue.gif
Thanks again!

I ran SLI 570s without any real issue, Always perfer a more powerful single card IMO, but seeing as the 670's are slightly worse than a 680(~2-5%), they are one of the best cards out right now. If I were you, I would buy one, but keep enough of your budget for a second one. And see if one is enough for your liking and if you think you need more power, purchase another.

The gigabyte one is going to be air cooled much better, but if you ever plan on a custom watercooling loop, you should grab a reference card (the EVGA one), since they are easier to find blocks for. If you have 0 intentions of watercooling, grab the gigabyte one.
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Xbox PC
(11 items)
 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
i5-2500k @ 4.8GHz stable ASRock P67 Extreme4 Gen 3 MSI GTX 980 Ti 32GB (4 x 8GB) 1866Mhz Ripjaws X 
Hard DriveHard DriveCoolingOS
256GB Crucial M4 1.5 TB HDD XSPC Raystorm RS360 Windows 7 Professional 
MonitorPowerCaseMouse
Acer 28" 4K Corsair AX750 Corsair 800D SWTOR Razer Naga 
AudioOtherOtherOther
Creative Sound Blaster X-Fi Titanium XSPC RS120 8 x GT AP-15s White Sleeved Cables for Corsair AX750 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Core 2 Quad Q6600 @ 3Ghz Asus P5G41T-M LX Plus EVGA GTX 680 2x4 GB 1333Mhz 
Hard DriveHard DriveOptical DriveCooling
500GB WD Black 64 GB Crucial M4 Sony CD/DVD burner H40 w/ GT AP-15s 
OSPowerCase
Windows 7 Home 64 bit Corsair CX430 APEVIA X-Plorer2 Pink 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Pentium G620 Foxconn H67S ITX Intel HD 2000 2 x 4GB 1333Mhz 
Hard DriveOptical DriveOSPower
256GB Crucial M4 Old Laptop CD/DVD drive Windows 7 picoPSU-150-XT 
OtherOtherOther
4 x Purple LEDs Power button Tranquility Xbox 360 Skin 
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The Sig Rig
(19 items)
 
Wifey Rig
(11 items)
 
Xbox PC
(11 items)
 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
i5-2500k @ 4.8GHz stable ASRock P67 Extreme4 Gen 3 MSI GTX 980 Ti 32GB (4 x 8GB) 1866Mhz Ripjaws X 
Hard DriveHard DriveCoolingOS
256GB Crucial M4 1.5 TB HDD XSPC Raystorm RS360 Windows 7 Professional 
MonitorPowerCaseMouse
Acer 28" 4K Corsair AX750 Corsair 800D SWTOR Razer Naga 
AudioOtherOtherOther
Creative Sound Blaster X-Fi Titanium XSPC RS120 8 x GT AP-15s White Sleeved Cables for Corsair AX750 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Core 2 Quad Q6600 @ 3Ghz Asus P5G41T-M LX Plus EVGA GTX 680 2x4 GB 1333Mhz 
Hard DriveHard DriveOptical DriveCooling
500GB WD Black 64 GB Crucial M4 Sony CD/DVD burner H40 w/ GT AP-15s 
OSPowerCase
Windows 7 Home 64 bit Corsair CX430 APEVIA X-Plorer2 Pink 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Pentium G620 Foxconn H67S ITX Intel HD 2000 2 x 4GB 1333Mhz 
Hard DriveOptical DriveOSPower
256GB Crucial M4 Old Laptop CD/DVD drive Windows 7 picoPSU-150-XT 
OtherOtherOther
4 x Purple LEDs Power button Tranquility Xbox 360 Skin 
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