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5/22/12 at 2:01am
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Unfortunately as of the moment there's no way to use it as a display for another computer. I considered buying a gaming rig and running it off my current iMac's display but there's just no way. (Perhaps it'll work with Thunderbolt, I'm not sure.)

You have the 27" iMac, yes? You can use that as an external display for another Mac.

It's hard to say whether that would work with a Windows system. However, with some planning and careful component selection, you can build a very high end computer with a hacked OSX/Windows dual boot.
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post #102 of 129
5/22/12 at 3:33am
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You have the 27" iMac, yes? You can use that as an external display for another Mac.

It's hard to say whether that would work with a Windows system. However, with some planning and careful component selection, you can build a very high end computer with a hacked OSX/Windows dual boot.
That only applies to the 2009 and 2010 model iMac which have a Mini DisplayPort, which allows them to be used as a display, even with a PC IIRC. The 2011 model however only has a Thunderbolt port and afaik there's no way to do it right now. (I have the 21.5 inch 2011 model btw.)
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post #103 of 129
5/22/12 at 3:58am
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That only applies to the 2009 and 2010 model iMac which have a Mini DisplayPort, which allows them to be used as a display, even with a PC IIRC. The 2011 model however only has a Thunderbolt port and afaik there's no way to do it right now. (I have the 21.5 inch 2011 model btw.)

Thunderbolt is like a miniDP connection, my mac book air only has thunderbolt but I can use it as a miniDP out, to connect to my monitor.
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post #104 of 129
5/22/12 at 4:10am
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Thunderbolt is like a miniDP connection, my mac book air only has thunderbolt but I can use it as a miniDP out, to connect to my monitor.
Yeah I seemed to remember it would work with other Thunderbolt equipped Macs, but there's no Thunderbolt on PCs yet.
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5/22/12 at 10:46am
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Unfortunately as of the moment there's no way to use it as a display for another computer. I considered buying a gaming rig and running it off my current iMac's display but there's just no way. (Perhaps it'll work with Thunderbolt, I'm not sure.)

They stopped supporting that? That sucks. Why would they do that?
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post #106 of 129
5/22/12 at 11:07am
display port is popular because it is the fastest thing!so if itsnt happening yet on dp ,i doubt thunderbolt at half the dp capacity for now will!
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post #107 of 129
5/22/12 at 11:12am
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display port is popular because it is the fastest thing!so if itsnt happening yet on dp ,i doubt thunderbolt at half the dp capacity for now will!

DisplayPort 1.2 supports 17.28GBit/s, Thunderbolt supports 20 GBits/s and a DisplayPort also.
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5/22/12 at 1:06pm
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Anti-aliasing, it would work fine to solve this issue and is cheaper than quadrupling the pixel-count of a monitor that is already very sharp.

Anti-aliasing does nothing to solve the problem of my computer not displaying as much detail as I can see.

I think it's a good idea to push for higher resolution sooner rather than later because this is one of those things you only have to do once. Think about it, computers (for the foreseeable future) will always be getting faster, but you only have to push pixel density to 300 DPI once. There is a physical limit to the usable pixel density on a monitor at a given size, and right now we aren't anywhere near that number.
If you want to make "the perfect 24" monitor", 300DPI would be on the list of specs (well, 350 if it was made for me). We can do that right now! What are we waiting for? You will say "computers aren't fast enough" but that's not true, computers are more than fast enough, you just have to split resources a little differently from the way they are now. The saying "buy the best and only cry once" comes to mind. The amount of processing power needed to run a 20 megapixel monitor will never go up, you can keep that as a gold standard and then everyone can safely focus on other things knowing that you will never again have to increase screen resolution by an order of magnitude like we should be doing right now.
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5/22/12 at 6:12pm
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They stopped supporting that? That sucks. Why would they do that?
EDIT: Just Googled.

The 2011 iMac models support Target Display Mode as long as the other Mac is equipped with Thunderbolt, but they don't support it via Mini DisplayPort. Not sure how you'd connect it to a PC.
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5/22/12 at 7:39pm
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Anti-aliasing does nothing to solve the problem of my computer not displaying as much detail as I can see.
I think it's a good idea to push for higher resolution sooner rather than later because this is one of those things you only have to do once. Think about it, computers (for the foreseeable future) will always be getting faster, but you only have to push pixel density to 300 DPI once. There is a physical limit to the usable pixel density on a monitor at a given size, and right now we aren't anywhere near that number.
If you want to make "the perfect 24" monitor", 300DPI would be on the list of specs (well, 350 if it was made for me). We can do that right now! What are we waiting for? You will say "computers aren't fast enough" but that's not true, computers are more than fast enough, you just have to split resources a little differently from the way they are now. The saying "buy the best and only cry once" comes to mind. The amount of processing power needed to run a 20 megapixel monitor will never go up, you can keep that as a gold standard and then everyone can safely focus on other things knowing that you will never again have to increase screen resolution by an order of magnitude like we should be doing right now.

I'm not sure why DPI keeps getting brought up in this thread. What matters is the angle of your FOV that a pixel takes up, and a 2560x1440 27" monitor at 2.5 feet away has pixels that take up a similar FOV to a 300 DPI device like an iPhone at 9-12 inches away. If you want to argue that DPI still needs to be higher on monitors then you might as well argue that devices like the iPhone should also have a higher DPI.
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