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I tried Aero on an ole Qosmio laptop and Window basically gave-me-the-finger.
Tried Compiz in Sabayon (same lappy) and it worked perfectly.

Yeah I've ran a fusion desktop on machines with 1GB of memory.

Honestly...this is why I like Sabayon so much. It installs Compiz during the install
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Yeah I've ran a fusion desktop on machines with 1GB of memory.
Honestly...this is why I like Sabayon so much. It installs Compiz during the install

And ain't it purty biggrin.gif
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Actually windows is more like buying a sports car with an inline 4. It gets you where you need to go, it's reasonably quick, and you just have to change the oil every now and then. Linux is like buying a jet engine to put in that car. Yes nobody can catch you and you'll have massive bragging rights but you'll need to learn how to put it in the car and do regular service and do you really want your grandparents to look like this when you take them out for a spin?
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What are you even talking about? It's true that Linux brings far less bloat and resource hogs than Mac OS X or Windows 7, and thus it will allow you to more fully harness the full power of your personal computer. And it's not like your run-of-the-mill user-friendly distribution was a lot of complicated work to install or maintain... but we've been through this, you don't really want to know something else.
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That's strange. It's dead?
I just installed Fedora 16, used it for a week, and got rid of W7 all together because F16 does everything that I want.
    
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The things that would push me to Linux more than anything else is the following:

1. Allowing Firefox to push updates more frequently through the OS's update mechanism rather than locking that down (you can't update Linux FF through FF, only when the OS's central repository update manager itself pushes out the update)
2. Effortless and reliable DVD and Blu-Ray playback without messing about via mechanisms you have to google to find because no-one will lay it out plainly that the OS lacks all the features of disc playback due to licencing restrictions.
3. A media player with the same interface (or as near as) Media Player Classic, which would include being able to play back subtitle files.
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The things that would push me to Linux more than anything else is the following:
1. Allowing Firefox to push updates more frequently through the OS's update mechanism rather than locking that down (you can't update Linux FF through FF, only when the OS's central repository update manager itself pushes out the update)
2. Effortless and reliable DVD and Blu-Ray playback without messing about via mechanisms you have to google to find because no-one will lay it out plainly that the OS lacks all the features of disc playback due to licencing restrictions.
3. A media player with the same interface (or as near as) Media Player Classic, which would include being able to play back subtitle files.

Have you tried Plex?

Plex replaced all my video players not to long ago.
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You can run Compiz/Unity on 1gb RAM but it's not exactly speedy. LXDE would be better on those machines!
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This thread has been a blast! My personal favourite is Xubuntu. Even though I'm a power user I prefer the out of the box functionality of Ubuntu-based distros. Built in support for tethering is really a life-saver sometimes. I know that LXDE is more lightweight than Xfce, but it's not as nice to me.
KDE is really good too, but a slight too heavy even now after a lot of progress on that front.
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The things that would push me to Linux more than anything else is the following:
1. Allowing Firefox to push updates more frequently through the OS's update mechanism rather than locking that down (you can't update Linux FF through FF, only when the OS's central repository update manager itself pushes out the update)
2. Effortless and reliable DVD and Blu-Ray playback without messing about via mechanisms you have to google to find because no-one will lay it out plainly that the OS lacks all the features of disc playback due to licencing restrictions.
3. A media player with the same interface (or as near as) Media Player Classic, which would include being able to play back subtitle files.

1) You could always tarball if you're that impatient as FF is available that way too. Some distros are really right on it so you could always move to them.

2) DVD works fine for me in everything. Bluray, you can either MakeMkv or or you can use MakeMkv to decrypt and feed into a player. Plus, someone had posted some current keys for some bluray discs. But again...this is misdirected anger/complaints. This is not Linux's fault. It is the producers. You want things to change than you speak with the wallet and complain to them.

3) Eh...XBMC in Linux is much better. Sure it's a little "bloated" but hell it's so easy to use and get everything working that the trade off is worth it.
     
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Good article. I like tinkering with Linux but I like many people don't have the time and patience to go through all kinds of crap just to have a set-up that works as reliably as Windows. There are so many Linux apps that are just written in someone's spare time with no R&D and no support so basically a whole lot of buggy-as-hell software. It's very rare that I get a 3rd party app for Windows that is so buggy it's barely functional, but it happens a bunch with Linux apps.

One thing that really bugs me is when Linux proponents respond to "Linux can't do this or that..." with a tone that basically sounds like "YOU MUST BE AN IGNORANT MORON. Of course it can, you just have to do this, this other thing, that, that other thing, and fourty supplementary things, oh and don't forget the twenty dependencies..." I guess if you deal with it professionally, it makes sense to learn how to do a thousand things just to get one thing done. All I know is after countless hours of tinkering with Linux just to gain some ground that may be lost at the next kernel update, I've bloody well had enough of the can-do attitude. Considering the hours lost on figuring Linux out and getting it to run as a reliable desktop OS, I would have saved a lot of time and consequently money by just paying for the Windows version of whatever I need, installing it in minutes instead of hours and moving onto the next thing in my life.
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