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no bottleneck here!

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To all those who smash on AMD chip for bottlenecking everything...
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This was wile I was playing BF3...... still have a problem with the 8150?
 
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Try getting a couple more powerful GPU's and you'll see the bottleneck
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- the argument isn't that they are bottlenecking mid range gpus, but that they are bottlenecking high end gpu's (i.e. 6970's in CF, 570's in SLI, etc)
 
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Your gpu Usage is not 100% all the time while gaming, so in theory it is Bottlenecking
 
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I plan on getting a pair of 7970's, maybe a slight bottleneck there but, Ive had so many people say I'd bottleneck my cards lol
on most games, they wont. its only on cpu heavy games such as sc2 where intel chips pull ahead. in most games there is no difference. in fact, since bf3 can use more then 4 cores the 8150 is actually faster then the 2500k
 
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Your gpu Usage is not 100% all the time while gaming, so in theory it is Bottlenecking
hahahahahah

Not 100% GPU usage must be bottle neck.

Even funnier who gives a rat's *, eventually one day you will all grow up and just be happy to play your games or run your programs.
 
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Your gpu Usage is not 100% all the time while gaming, so in theory it is Bottlenecking
This...

Sorry but not being pegged at 99% all the time fails to prove your point. It will only get worse with faster cards.

I am not saying you are not enjoying BF3 but you are definitely seeing a slight bottleneck with your setup that will only get worse with faster cards.
 
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Guy, just play games and stop worrying about this stuff.
You have great potential young Jedi.
 
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Guy, just play games and stop worrying about this stuff.
I agree. However, the fact remains that there is a bottleneck present.
 
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not here to start a war, I'm just tired of people saying that FX chip bottleneck my GPU's (Im in the 90ès so thats fine) a bottle neck isw 60ès-70ès isnèt itÉ
Just forget about them man. If you are getting great frame rates then why even care? Will you get better minimum frames with a faster Intel CPU? Yes you would but that doesn't mean an FX chip is unacceptable.
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I agree. However, the fact remains that there is a bottleneck present.
Would be fine if he ditched the 2 6870s and grabbed a single 7850, I think.

Even if there is a "bottleneck", he isn't being crazy with 3 680s or anything, so it's not a big deal. Definitely ditch the 2 cards though. Should stabilize things.
 
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i'd be happy to have a bott... play games
 
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Would be fine if he ditched the 2 6870s and grabbed a single 7850, I think.
Even if there is a "bottleneck", he isn't being crazy with 3 680s or anything, so it's not a big deal. Definitely ditch the 2 cards though. Should stabilize things.
Correct.

One card, even a 7970, would be pushed to 99% with that FX cpu.
 
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Would be fine if he ditched the 2 6870s and grabbed a single 7850, I think.
Even if there is a "bottleneck", he isn't being crazy with 3 680s or anything, so it's not a big deal. Definitely ditch the 2 cards though. Should stabilize things.
Correct.

One card, even a 7970, would be pushed to 99% with that FX cpu.
fx cpus arnt as weak as some think. overclocked they could take amy single and most dual gpu setups. hell, in most games itd be fine with dual 7970s or 680s.
 
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fx cpus arnt as weak as some think. overclocked they could take amy single and most dual gpu setups. hell, in most games itd be fine with dual 7970s or 680s.
You seem to not understand my point.

Will most games be fine with an FX cpu and dual 7970s? Yes they will be "fine" I never said they were unacceptable.

That being said.

Will most games benefit from a faster Intel cpu and dual 7970s? Yes it they will. Minimum framerates will be better than with an FX cpu

Is an FX cpu more than "fine" yes of course it is and it is silly to say otherwise but facts are facts Intel will perform better with multi gpu setups compared to AMD.

That doesn't mean AMD fails or that Intel is required in order to play these games...
 
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fx cpus arnt as weak as some think. overclocked they could take amy single and most dual gpu setups. hell, in most games itd be fine with dual 7970s or 680s.
You seem to not understand my point.

Will most games be fine with an FX cpu and dual 7970s? Yes they will be "fine" I never said they were unacceptable.

That being said.

Will most games benefit from a faster Intel cpu and dual 7970s? Yes it they will. Minimum framerates will be better than with an FX cpu

Is an FX cpu more than "fine" yes of course it is and it is silly to say otherwise but facts are facts Intel will perform better with multi gpu setups compared to AMD.

That doesn't mean AMD fails or that Intel is required in order to play these games...
the fps differance will be small in most games.... that is my point.
 
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the fps differance will be small in most games.... that is my point.
And you just proved mine...
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It's IPC that Intel has over AMD, and that's where a 2500k at 4Ghz will pull ahead of BD at 4Ghz, regardless of game. It's multi-threaded programs that can utilize Bulldozer better.

There is a bottleneck, because your not pegged at 99%, but other issues can get in the way, like stuttering and IO bottlenecks. There is nothing wrong with FX, it's just not as fast clock for clock as it should be, and that's why Intel excels in that area.
 
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Just a note to some of the responses here:

Pegged 99% usage is highly unlikely to occur with every game, let alone game engine, driver set, and so on. Some games may allow for full-fledged usage but others won't. Arcania Gothic 4 is a great example - totally crap usage because coding wasn't spectacular. Other reasons that drop usage from being 'pegged' are AA levels, AO settings, and so on.
 
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