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post #71 of 131
5/21/12 at 11:10am
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Ugh, I really hope this isn't true.
This is just delaying nVidia's entry into the mid-range, and keeping prices high.

"mid range" will be 680GTX/670GTX re-called to "660ti/670GTX"

why you think 670 GTX pcb from stock is as short as a mid range video card?
post #72 of 131
5/21/12 at 11:12am
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"mid range" will be 680GTX/670GTX re-called to "660ti/670GTX"
why you think 670 GTX pcb from stock is as short as a mid range video card?

Are you suggesting they accidentally released cards with the wrong branding. Or that they did that, but on purpose? I surely hope not and I'm reading this funny...
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post #73 of 131
5/21/12 at 11:15am
The performance degradation may be true, but recalls are going too far.

Recalls are done for safety reasons or catastrophic failure. Performance degradation would just be a nuisance.
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post #74 of 131
5/21/12 at 11:15am
Unrelated to the recall but related to degradation, they said the same thing about the 6950 with the bios unlock. That by unlocking the 6950 would somehow caused faster degradation of the chip. Here at OCN we do know that any type of overclocking does cause degradation of your chips whether it be a GPU or CPU it's obvious.

Whether the highly clocked 670 or the recently overclocked 7970 to 1 Ghz retail, a small amount of degradation goes without saying.
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post #75 of 131
5/21/12 at 11:16am
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The performance degradation may be true, but recalls are going too far.
Recalls are done for safety reasons or catastrophic failure. Performance degradation would just be a nuisance.

It could be that degradation leads to failure though right? Maybe all 680s are six month ticking time bombs. I mean who knows really.
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post #76 of 131
5/21/12 at 11:17am
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Are you suggesting they accidentally released cards with the wrong branding. Or that they did that, but on purpose? I surely hope not and I'm reading this funny...

No, they did it intentionally. GK104 is a midrange part. The "4" denotes a midrange part, just like the GF104 was a midrange part (GTX 460) and GF114 was also a midrange part (GTX 560ti and GTX 560). The question, is, what were the targeted voltages and clockspeeds if they had launched them as midrange parts as they were originally meant to be ?
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post #77 of 131
5/21/12 at 11:17am
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The performance degradation may be true, but recalls are going too far.
Recalls are done for safety reasons or catastrophic failure. Performance degradation would just be a nuisance.

And if it happens quick enough, it will make you never buy that brand again. Some thing can become too much of a nuisance, and put you off. Protecting the brand/image is all that matters. Perhaps its a bigger issue than we know, perhaps this is all fluff and no story. We can only wait.
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post #78 of 131
5/21/12 at 11:17am
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Are you suggesting they accidentally released cards with the wrong branding. Or that they did that, but on purpose? I surely hope not and I'm reading this funny...

if you call "accidentally" sell a mid range GPU labelled as high with high end performance vs AMD cards and earn a lot more than selling mid range GPUs at its legit price

yes they did it
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When the company received first GK100, GK104 and GK107 dies, the performance of GK104 shocked the company executives. Our sources were telling us that there was a genuine surprise from CEO to PR/Marketing/Sales teams, since GeForce GTX 660 part was outperforming GTX 580 by a significant margin. The decision was made to rebrand the part into GTX 660 and 670 Ti, with GK100 taking the role of head honcho. Then, AMD came out with Radeon HD 7970, the very first part based on its Southern Islands architecture. The performance unveiled was the reason why the author of these lines got multiple calls from NVIDIA insiders asking "Does AMD have hidden cores in the die? What did they disable?" However, with Southern Islands being AMD's first compute intensive part (just like G80/Tesla and GF100/Fermi were compute milestones for NVIDIA), the company had to sacrifice some efficiency/performance for their first true GPU compute architecture.

Read more: http://vr-zone.com/articles/how-the-geforce-gtx-690-is-a-prime-example-of-nvidia-reshaped-/15786.html#ixzz1vR4QU7wV
post #79 of 131
5/21/12 at 11:19am
I seem to remember the initial clock speed rumor for GK104 was like 700mhz plus boost. If it happens that this was true and Nvidia strengthened the card a bit and jacked up clock speeds by 30% it would certainly make sense.
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post #80 of 131
5/21/12 at 11:19am
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No, they did it intentionally. GK104 is a midrange part. The "4" denotes a midrange part, just like the GF104 was a midrange part (GTX 460) and GF114 was also a midrange part (GTX 560ti and GTX 560). The question, is, what were the targeted voltages and clockspeeds if they had launched them as midrange parts as they were originally meant to be ?

I understand what your saying and reasoning. But it sounds like the other guy is saying they will recall your 680 and then call that a 670 or lower and resell it or send it back... like they will recall simply to rebrand. That would be mind bogglingly stupid.
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