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post #21 of 35
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Originally Posted by Brutuz View Post

LGA makes it easier to install CPUs, IMO.

The lga (especially 1155) seems flimsier in a way.. It's like you can damage the pads on the board much easier.
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post #22 of 35
LGA has superior electrical properties/contacts than PGA. It is also more secure than PGA (sometimes CPU cooler can pull a CPU out from PGA, damaging the socket).

Best of all, LGA puts liability on the motherboard manufacturer, saves AMD money on possible RMA. Really not sure why AMD keeps hang on to PGA.
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post #23 of 35
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Originally Posted by trumpet-205 View Post

LGA has superior electrical properties/contacts than PGA. It is also more secure than PGA (sometimes CPU cooler can pull a CPU out from PGA, damaging the socket).
Best of all, LGA puts liability on the motherboard manufacturer, saves AMD money on possible RMA. Really not sure why AMD keeps hang on to PGA.

This is true.

I've had it happen to me a couple of times but fortunately, nothing was damaged.
post #24 of 35
Thats oem and is more likely a 775 80mm bolt pattern. does not mean all FM2 will use it, in fact it is probably an HP board.
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post #25 of 35
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Originally Posted by smash_mouth01 View Post

An intel styled cooler mounting pattern. hmmmm

Most OEM AMD mobo's are like that.
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[quote name="trumpet-205" url="/t/1260163/vr-zone-early-msi-socket-fm2-motherboard-tips-up/20#post_17299052"]LGA has superior electrical properties/contacts than PGA. It is also more secure than PGA (sometimes CPU cooler can pull a CPU out from PGA, damaging the socket).
Best of all, LGA puts liability on the motherboard manufacturer, saves AMD money on possible RMA. Really not sure why AMD keeps hang on to PGA.[/quote]

proof.gif Proof would be nice please. thumb.gif
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post #27 of 35
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Originally Posted by Obakemono View Post

proof.gif Proof would be nice please. thumb.gif

Back in Northwood Intel published a technical document (looking for it right now) detailing the analysis between PGA and LGA. Considering future processors (process getting smaller) will be using lower voltage and higher current, PGA is not suitable because the nature of its design.

Furthermore, PGA makes it unfavorable for more pins. Reason why AMD adopted LGA on server market is because PGA would have taken up more space (driving up motherboard cost) than LGA.

EDIT: Click me
Edited by trumpet-205 - 5/22/12 at 2:22pm
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post #28 of 35
Quote:
Originally Posted by trumpet-205 View Post

Back in Northwood Intel published a technical document (looking for it right now) detailing the analysis between PGA and LGA. Considering future processors (process getting smaller) will be using lower voltage and higher current, PGA is not suitable because the nature of its design.
Furthermore, PGA makes it unfavorable for more pins. Reason why AMD adopted LGA on server market is because PGA would have taken up more space (driving up motherboard cost) than LGA.
EDIT: Click me

Thanks, reading now.
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post #29 of 35
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Originally Posted by Weedvender View Post

OEM? Looks like an engineering board to me.
The CPU phases do look like 3+2 from here.

Thats what I was thinking based on this quote.
Quote:
it actually looks like an OEM product

There was no fact given.

Quote:
Originally Posted by trumpet-205 
LGA has superior electrical properties/contacts than PGA. It is also more secure than PGA (sometimes CPU cooler can pull a CPU out from PGA, damaging the socket).

Pulling the CPU from the socket is a User Error, nothing more. You have to twist the cooler to break the suction/ adhesion of the paste...
Edited by smash_mouth01 - 5/22/12 at 4:06pm
    
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post #30 of 35
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Originally Posted by smash_mouth01 View Post

Pulling the CPU from the socket is a User Error, nothing more. You have to twist the cooler to break the suction/ adhesion of the paste...

Sometimes the damn thing just won't come off.

Either way, I'd take LGA over PGA any day if I was working around the CPU socket area all the time.
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