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For those of you wondering about the Z77E itx, I have mine and its has been working flawlessly. Cant comment on the OC capabilities yet though. Also, I know there is an EVGA mitx board in the works too, so if you guys can hold off on a mobo purchase, then you might as well thumb.gif
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I am currently building a very similarly spec'd computer, except that I have the ASUS P8Z77-I Deluxe mini-itx board. The problem with the ASUS is that there is a daughter-board at the edge of the board which contains additional power-circuitry. By mounting the H50 radiator in a push configuration (case/fan/radiator, blowing cool air in), the hose attachments are blocked by the daughter-board! The only configuration that works with a single 25mm fan is to attach the radiator directly to the case, then the fan to the radiator. The downside to this is that you are stuck with either a pull setup or pushing hot-air across the radiator. I have tried the later, and my temps are 82C on a Core i7-2600k with Prime95 running on all threads. Will also try a pull setup, and see if I can get any better.

But this got me thinking that maybe I could use a push/pull with two of those Scythe 12mm fans, as I think this will put the radiator hose connection away from the daughter-card.

What sort of CPU temps are you getting under load, ie with Prime95? How noisy are those two skinny fans. Some of the reviews at NewEgg indicate they are not quiet.

I was also curious how you managed the fan control. You have effectively three fans wanting control, and likely not that many fan headers.
Edited by bondisdead - 5/26/12 at 1:18pm
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Some really good info in this thread!
Now I really want to see that EVGA itx board!!! thumb.gif
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OP has been majorly updated with my fan cooling changes, OCing, temperatures, power consumption, and 3DMark scores with it OCed. I hope you guys enjoy it and thank you all for following my thread and for your contributions.thumb.gif
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Have you tried running the pump off a fan controller set at 90% or trhough some paralell diodes (zalman fan-mate)?
That would help with the pump rattling noise...
Looking forward to some pics and screenies biggrin.gif
The noise is pretty much a non-issue now with the system on the floor but I might try it just see if it does anything. Thanks for the suggestion.
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For those of you wondering about the Z77E itx, I have mine and its has been working flawlessly. Cant comment on the OC capabilities yet though. Also, I know there is an EVGA mitx board in the works too, so if you guys can hold off on a mobo purchase, then you might as well thumb.gif
It seems to need a little more volts than my Asrock Z77 Extreme4 but overall I'm very impressed. I didn't know EVGA was coming out with a Mini ITX board, that should be interesting. On Newegg there are only two options for Z77 ITX boards with Asus and Asrock. So I'd welcome some more options.
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I am currently building a very similarly spec'd computer, except that I have the ASUS P8Z77-I Deluxe mini-itx board. The problem with the ASUS is that there is a daughter-board at the edge of the board which contains additional power-circuitry. By mounting the H50 radiator in a push configuration (case/fan/radiator, blowing cool air in), the hose attachments are blocked by the daughter-board! The only configuration that works with a single 25mm fan is to attach the radiator directly to the case, then the fan to the radiator. The downside to this is that you are stuck with either a pull setup or pushing hot-air across the radiator. I have tried the later, and my temps are 82C on a Core i7-2600k with Prime95 running on all threads. Will also try a pull setup, and see if I can get any better.
But this got me thinking that maybe I could use a push/pull with two of those Scythe 12mm fans, as I think this will put the radiator hose connection away from the daughter-card.
What sort of CPU temps are you getting under load, ie with Prime95? How noisy are those two skinny fans. Some of the reviews at NewEgg indicate they are not quiet.
I was also curious how you managed the fan control. You have effectively three fans wanting control, and likely not that many fan headers.
I came to the same conclusion as well. For my case it was the USB 3.0 header that was interfering with the hose so I attached the radiator directly to the case, like you did. This gave the stiff front USB 3.0 header cable enough room to fit.

The Scythe slim fan config was too loud, at least for an exhaust setup. Maybe if I changed it to intake it would be less whoosy and noisy. For my 3570K at stock I'm getting 53C-62C and when OCed to 4.4GHz 1.2v I'm getting temps of 66C-73C among the cores (load via OCCT). You can see more detail in the OP as temperature testing was part of my update.

The Asrock Z77E-ITX has two 4-pin fan power connectors. With my originally setup I had both Scythe fans connected to the mobo fan headers and front fan and H50 pump connected via 3-pin to molex adapters. With my new setup I have the Noctua top radiator exhaust fan and H50 pump connected to the mobo fan headers. The 230mm fan is already molex so there are no adapters needed for that. The only fan control I have is for the fans connected to the mobo headers which I have set to the way I want in the BIOS.
Edited by Ben the OCer - 5/26/12 at 10:24pm
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Joined just to comment on this build, I guess I'm in the right place for what I have in mind. I'm working on a build almost identical to yours, so I just wanted to say yours looks awesome and I hope mine comes out as well.
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Joined just to comment on this build, I guess I'm in the right place for what I have in mind. I'm working on a build almost identical to yours, so I just wanted to say yours looks awesome and I hope mine comes out as well.
I'm honored to be at least part of the reason for you joining OCN and welcome.thumb.gif Cool, best of luck with your build. What exact components are you thinking of going with? Let me know if you have any questions. I've had my fair share of problems along the way but it's been a fun little project.biggrin.gif
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no no no u r doing it all wrong. u shud use an azza fusion 4000 and mount it at the top for trollz tongue.gif
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I'm honored to be at least part of the reason for you joining OCN and welcome.thumb.gif Cool, best of luck with your build. What exact components are you thinking of going with? Let me know if you have any questions. I've had my fair share of problems along the way but it's been a fun little project.biggrin.gif

Made a thread here:
http://www.overclock.net/t/1262530/micro-atx-vs-mini-itx-help-me-make-some-itx-choices

Didn't want to clog up your build thread with discussion on mine tongue.gif but I'd appreciate any feedback on what I'm looking at so far.


On a more related note to this thread and your build - I'm not sure how I feel about the video card being oriented along the bottom like it is in this case. Seems to me that may have had something to do with your higher temps before adjusting. Heat rises and all...and that card looks like everything generating heat is not only on the bottom but poorly ventilated due to being smashed right against the bottom of the case. Putting your case on top of that metal side piece may have helped, but....eh, still doesn't seem ideal to me.
Edited by Petehmb - 5/27/12 at 7:57pm
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Made a thread here:
http://www.overclock.net/t/1262530/micro-atx-vs-mini-itx-help-me-make-some-itx-choices
Didn't want to clog up your build thread with discussion on mine tongue.gif but I'd appreciate any feedback on what I'm looking at so far.
On a more related note to this thread and your build - I'm not sure how I feel about the video card being oriented along the bottom like it is in this case. Seems to me that may have had something to do with your higher temps before adjusting. Heat rises and all...and that card looks like everything generating heat is not only on the bottom but poorly ventilated due to being smashed right against the bottom of the case. Putting your case on top of that metal side piece may have helped, but....eh, still doesn't seem ideal to me.
Your not clogging up my thread. I'd be happy to answer any questions you might have. I like your build plans. That rig sounds pretty sweet.

The bottom GPU vents are not a problem for me, as you can see with my temps in the OP. If you put the system on carpet without any hard surface underneath you could possibly starve the GPU of air. There is a bit of a gap between the GPU fans and the bottom of the case, not huge but it's there. So there is a little room to work with if you have a good intake fan, as I do with my 230mm fan.
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Based on your pictures, it appears that you have the two hard-drive cages removed. I imagine that helps with airlow from the front intake fan, not to mention providing much needed room for that monster 230mm fan! Do you know the RPMs on the top mounted 120mm Noctua? I have a similar setup on the rig I am building (i7-2600k, ASUS P8H77-I Deluxe), and my Enermax Cluster UCCL12 120mm fan is spinning at max 1200 RPMs. With an overclock of 4.2GHz and Prime95 running for an hour, temps creap up to low 80C. I have read that the Ivy Bridge chips run hot, so am surprised that you are getting temps about 10C lower. I wonder if the 230mm intake fan vs 140mm and removed hard-drive cage make that much of a difference?

Just a thought, had you thought of moving the H50 radiator to the front fan, giving it the ideal fresh air intake configuration? WIth the drive cage removed, you could actually do a 140mm push/full. You'd need a 140mm -> 120mm fan adapter for the intake push fan, then a 120mm fan for the pull side. Just a thought, as you have alot more options with the drive cages removed.
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