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Researcing Intel I7 and APU-8 3500, Which do I get for RTS games?

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I'm researching CPU's for laptops for the first time. I really just want a light, low profile Laptop, not really for gaming, but for work and net surfing and watching blu-ray movies (I have a big blu ray collection so I don't care about the screen resolution)

But if I play a game, i'm only interested in playing Star craft of Company of heroes.


Plus, do Laptops with A8-processors have integrated graphics chips that are soldered right on the board, because I can fix any laptop problem, but I don't have a rework station. So I'd be willing to go with an A-8 if the on chip graphics is the only graphics chip on the computer.

My max Budget is $800 dollars,

I definitely need a
1. Blu-Ray Player

I prefer a
2. Slim, Low Profile

I must buy this laptop from
3. Wal-Mart.com...
Edited by fapestar - 5/22/12 at 7:19pm
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The graphics on the A8 is directly in the CPU. It's called an APU for that reason (CPU + GPU in one).

I would wait until AMD's Trinity Ultrathins are out.
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Originally Posted by Tsumi View Post

The graphics on the A8 is directly in the CPU. It's called an APU for that reason (CPU + GPU in one).
I would wait until AMD's Trinity Ultrathins are out.

That's gonna be out of my price range tough right?
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I see this A8 is in my Range

http://www.walmart.com/ip/HP-Steel-Gray-17.3-Pavilion-DV7-6C20US-Laptop-PC-with-AMD-Quad-Core-A8-3520M-Accelerated-Processor-and-Windows-7-Home-Premium/19581017

This is an i7 in my range but no blu ray player
http://www.walmart.com/ip/Dell-Diamond-Black-15.6-Inspiron-N5110-Laptop-PC-with-Intel-Core-i7-2670QM-Processor-and-Windows-7-Home-Premium/19592288

how are laptops with the 2450m i5 core? I see one with a blu ray player...I kinda order it tommorow.
Edited by fapestar - 5/22/12 at 7:48pm
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post #5 of 14
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Also, am I going to see a big drop in performance and speed if I get a 5400rpm HDD over a 7200 RPM?
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post #6 of 14
Current estimates put an A10 ultrathin somewhere in the $700-800 range. No way to tell until they're released though, which may not be for a couple of weeks.

The i7's HD3000 iGPU is significantly slower than the A8 iGPU. Not to mention, with the A8 you get a 17.3" laptop with probably 1600x900 resolution, while the i7 you get 15.6" with probably 1366x768 resolution.

In terms of loading time, the 7200 RPM will be faster, but also be a bigger drain on your battery. In terms of gaming performance, they'll be identical.

Any particular reason why you need to buy from walmart?
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I got a $500 gift card...

Okay, so I did about hours research, I found a Full HD 1080p 15.6, i5, 2430 processor (2.4-3.0ghz), 6GB DDR3, 540m 1gb dedicated graphics (is that still good) with a 640GB 5600rpm SATA for $898
It also comes with a blu-ray player....that is perfect isn't it?

I also see one on Sam's Club that has a 17.3" 900p screen and a i5 2450m but only hd3000 graphics. It's 90 bux less though?

I also a core i7 2670q with 7690m xt graphics with a blu ray player, but unfortunately it only has a 15.6" 700p screen.

Which is better, 540m or 7690m xt?
Edited by fapestar - 5/23/12 at 2:55pm
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Also, I've never had the pleasure of fixing a customer with a 540m or 570m mobile processor, can you take those out, or are they soldered to the board?
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This laptop would be the most perfect ever if only...it had a 900p screen $799.99 for a core i7 and a 7690xt m. how much better is a 7690xt m than 540m? I found a comparison here dude, I don't know what to do. I mean, 720 p should be fine for a screen smaller than 32 Inches. other wise this would be a super perfect laptop.

Processor and Memory
Processor Type: 2nd generation Intel® Core™ i7-2670QM
Processor Speed: 2.20 GHz with Turbo Boost Technology up to 3.10 GHz
Memory (RAM): 8GB DDR3 SDRAM (2 DIMM); 16MB Maximum Memory
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Hard Drive: 750GB 5400RPM hard drive with HP ProtectSmart Hard Drive Protection
Optical Drive: Blu-ray player and SuperMulti DVD burner
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Graphics: Radeon™ HD 7690M XT switchable graphics with 1024MB GDDR5 and up to 5093MB total graphics memory
Audio: Beats Audio™ with 4 speakers
Display, Keyboard, Mouse and Webcam
Display Size: 15.6"
Display Type: Diagonal HD BrightView LED-backlit
Display Resolution: 1366 x 768
Keyboard: Full-size island-style keyboard with numeric keypad
Mouse: Touchpad with on/off button. Illuminated LED touchpad border: press fn + space to turn on or off.
Webcam: HP TrueVision HD Webcam with integrated digital microphone
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Wi-Fi: 802.11b/g/n WLAN
Bluetooth: No
Modem: No
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Ports: • 2 SuperSpeed USB 3.0
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• 1 HDMI
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• 2 Headphone-out
• 1 Microphone-in
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Battery Type: 6-cell 55WHr lithium-ion battery
Typical Battery Life: Up to 6 hours
AC Adapter: 120W AC adapter
Software
Operating System: Genuine Windows® 7 Home Premium (64-bit)
Manufacturer Software: • HP Security Assistant
• HP Recovery Manager
• Windows Update
• Lojack® for Laptops
• HP ProtectSmart Hard Drive Protection (HP 3D DriveGuard)
• HP SimplePass with One-Time Password
• HP Support Assistant
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Other Software: Microsoft® Office 2010 Starter preloaded (Includes reduced functionality versions of Word and Excel with Ads. Purchase of Product Key required to activate full Office 2010 suite).
Trial Software: Free 60-day Norton™ Internet Security 2012 Subscription
Physical Specifications
Environmental Specifications: • ENERGY STAR® qualified
• EPEAT® Silver registered where applicable/supported
• BFR and PVC free
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Color Brushed aluminum in steel gray
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Edited by fapestar - 5/23/12 at 3:23pm
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Originally Posted by fapestar View Post

Also, am I going to see a big drop in performance and speed if I get a 5400rpm HDD over a 7200 RPM?

yes, it will be noticeable slower. it will feel slugish. you should only use 5400 rpm drives for mass storage. if its a8 or intel both with an integrated gpu, then amd crushes intel in the graphics department. however, intel is better in the cpu. now im not sure on this, but i think the 7670 would be better then the 540m. however, id try to find something with a 7200 rpm drive, or else go buy one yourself and put it in.
Edited by jrl1357 - 5/23/12 at 3:29pm
    
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