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Oh well.. hopefully I am good enough to ask an overclocking question here?

My current rig shows as below my siggy..
Well, since the days of socket 939, I had always been overclocking. Interestingly, my first board was a Asrock Dual Sata2. I managed to overclock it up till 276 HTT, afte rthat, I didn't flash it's bios, thus it couldn't skipp the 280HTT protection. The RAMs of mine suck at that time so it won't do divider at 200/133.

Soon after that, got tired of the board and wanted more overclocking potential. Changed to Jetway GT4 SLI. Same thing. Stucked at 280HTT. Thinking it might seriously be my RAM+proc compatibility issue, I decided to go change my entire rig to AM2 since the Jetway won't report correct temp readings for the proc also.

And now, I am using AM2. Equiped with Tfore 550, Patriot DDR2 533, and a AM2 Orleans 3000+. I overclocked, thinking I should be able to do pass 280HTT without problems.

To my horror, it won't BOOT again at 280HTT, same as the previous two motherboards.

I have took into account HT link... (set at 4x or 3x..), voltage for proc, ram, LDT and chipset.. dividers.. ram timings....

Tweaking all these still result in failure to boot at 280HTT.
And it seems my 2.2v jumper doesn't works... (need a biostar tforce 550 user to clarify with me..)

Anyone mind giving me some guidance out of this 280HTT horror? or maybe I should shift to anothe rplace altogether see if it works...
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Biostar boards don't support high FSBs naturally. Some people use modded BIOS's to help. Others put heatsinks on some of the hotter components on the boards and then raise the voltage to the maximum. I really recommend DFI boards if incredibly high FSB's are what you desire.

You might be interested in this link though.
http://www.rhcf.com/sis-bin/ultimate.../forum/53.html

From some of the threads I gleaned that you should never select the maximum voltage on a TForce 550 for any component, unless you want your board to die. Selecting the second to max and having good air circulation moving across the board should prevent early death. They have links for some mods too.

My Biostar TForce 550 is extremely happy at 260mhz, but by 270mhz is unhappy, and fails to boot at 275mhz. I have not personally tried the maximum chipset voltage.

The 2.2v jumper fixes the voltage between 2.15-2.2v, regardless of what the BIOS reports.
     
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Originally Posted by Kramy
Biostar boards don't support high FSBs naturally. Some people use modded BIOS's to help. Others put heatsinks on some of the hotter components on the boards and then raise the voltage to the maximum. I really recommend DFI boards if incredibly high FSB's are what you desire.

You might be interested in this link though.
http://www.rhcf.com/sis-bin/ultimate.../forum/53.html

From some of the threads I gleaned that you should never select the maximum voltage on a TForce 550 for any component, unless you want your board to die. Selecting the second to max and having good air circulation moving across the board should prevent early death. They have links for some mods too.

My Biostar TForce 550 is extremely happy at 260mhz, but by 270mhz is unhappy, and fails to boot at 275mhz. I have not personally tried the maximum chipset voltage.

The 2.2v jumper fixes the voltage between 2.15-2.2v, regardless of what the BIOS reports.

*don't mind me quoting too much.. too used to it
Interestingly, the 2.2v jumper doesn't seems to work anyway. Whenever I poop it to 2.2v, the comp won't boot. Either that or hangs on post screen. I assume it's because my memory didn't like high voltage. *kicks it away*

If it's suppose to me non-boot during 280HTT.. the interesting thing is all 2 of my pass motherboard shown the same symptom. lol..

Alright.. gonna try a couple more bioses later and see which one allows me to boot pass 280HTT.. else I am gonna buy another motherboard and try out..
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post #4 of 8
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Alrighty.. didn't update for quite some time.
I bought myself a DFI UltraII M2 board a couple days ago. Same symptom. Won't boot pass 280HTT. Trying to get my DFI seniors to see if they have any advise for me. :lol:
I.. feel... so... weak....
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be sure your htt multiplier is @ 3x. 4 "might" work, but start low and move up (that's what overclocking is all about)
    
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I done that. Regardless, thanks to my senior, he manage to show me a couple of stuffs which made my board reached 280HTT, reaching to 290HTT. Right now we're trying to figure out some sort of damn weird problem.. if I tell you guys about this you guys might even think I am lying. :lol:
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Alrighty.. tried everything for today, now leaving my comp to burn in 24 hours.

Hurm.. actually it happens like this. When I set my rams to auto, it has no problems getting itself to go all the way to 280HTT. However, IF I manually select the timings for the rams, may it be the default timings, or loosen timings, it won't boot, or, it'll require higher voltage to boot. Hmm...

I lowered my multi and manage to hit all the way to 290HTT without problems at all and I believe I can go alot higher than that. Just I have no idea what's with the rams.

If I leave the ram dividers at DDR400, it will be defaulted at CL3 latencies. And if I try to increase the bus speed to 280HTT with CL3, it won't boot due to tight latencies. Loosing up the timings also, it won't boot unless I place the voltage at 2.3v. Where else it's default at 1.8v. Pretty strange. Even with the voltage at 2.3, it won't pass prime95 and will hang the comp.


1) I have strange rams.
2) I am so screwed up with timings. lol, I hope it's not me doing a mistake. I have double checked for quite alot of times.
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Finally. lol
As usual, my rams won't do high HTT with dividers.... Might change rams and try later.

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