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I recently took a large order from a firm in NYC.

They wanted super custom builds and I came in way under budget so, they want a couple custom computers tailored to specific needs.

One of their needs is a bunch of photo/video machines because they want the ability to hire their own professionals and not consult like they have been.

The PC's are going to be used very marginally for Video but, mostly for photo editing.

I originally wanted to do an 8150 because, it's faster than the Q6600, they're currently using (Not even kidding) and with the right card, could actually accomplish everything they need. Ram-wise it will benefit them as well.

With their budget, if I go with the 8150, I can do about 3 computers and actually save them a bit or, I can go with an Intel CPU, spend a bit more and only be able to give them 2 computers.

A rival competitor has been giving them advice and I feel it's very misplaced...However, it has me wondering if I should push Intel or if the AMD will accomplish what it needs to.

I was wondering what some of your experiences are in relation to the difference between the cores in a working environment?

Compared to what they have now, the 8150 is a huge upgrade...So I'm very pro 8150.

Thoughts? Opinions?
post #2 of 11
Hey,

I would look at the 8150, but not at oc'ing it as it does turbo very well. On dermand the machine can go to 4.4ghz all by itself with the right mainboard. The ram would be a big factor in the line up they're doing, I do fractal and 3d reneering for tv advertisers. So I work with static and moving images my work pc is a monster but my home pc is performing just aswell, have a look at my posts to see what I'm running.

I'd look at getting no less than 16gb's maybe crucial or corsair. the stock cooler will be fine as your not oc'ing, definately ssd and NOT mechs, as for the mainboard the Sabertooth I find performs very well indeed.

The gfx card I would go for a the AMD HD 6990 is a great card dont bother SLI as the card and cpu will handle the load well, even with my rendering and I'm talking 50+ gigs of HD images it's fine.

I would look at a good level of storage too, maybe lacie drives in a 4 or more stack they're 6gbs standard.

The PSU DO NOT skimp on, its important all that hardware gets the power so Corsair, OCZ or TT 750w minimum, they'res others on the market and for a 750 your looking at $110 / £90 -/+.

Hope this helps good luck
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Yeah I think the 8150 should work well for the specified task. Just make sure to get plenty (16-32GB) of good ram, and make sure the power supply is capable. Also go for SSD storage, at least for the main work drive.

Depending on money demands, it may be wise to use an intel system for the SSD Cache (now Smart Respone Tech). You could save money on storage space while having more storage at a great speed, instead of some at an awesome speed and more at a low speed. (I can't recall if AMD ever made an equivalent to Intel's SSD Caching?)
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If they need and will be using 3 PC's go with FX. It will be better for productivity.3v2, it's obvious.

Also, if the budget persists, it doesnt sound like it does though, grab entry level Quadro GPUs. The issue with using gaming GPUs is that their drivers are optimized for games, where the workstation driver's are optimized for their applications. So the workstation GPU will end up being better.

The second most beneficial item would be 8-16GB of fast RAM. Ram speeds help with rendering more than most people know, shoot for 1600MHz+

SSD is great for productivity. I wish my work would give me one... rolleyes.gif not waiting for the long boot times and application loading is a major plus. thumb.gif

A quality 500W PSU should be plenty for this build...
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I was planning on doing an 8150 with 32gb of ram, 750w corsair professional, A 120gb SSD and a 2x Caviars for data.

The 6990 is WAY out of their budget range...I'm actually looking at 7770's...

They don't necessarily need the elite of the elite but, I don't want to leave them in a position where they're behind in a few years.
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If they need and will be using 3 PC's go with FX. It will be better for productivity.3v2, it's obvious.
Also, if the budget persists, it doesnt sound like it does though, grab entry level Quadro GPUs. The issue with using gaming GPUs is that their drivers are optimized for games, where the workstation driver's are optimized for their applications. So the workstation GPU will end up being better.
The second most beneficial item would be 8-16GB of fast RAM. Ram speeds help with rendering more than most people know, shoot for 1600MHz+
SSD is great for productivity. I wish my work would give me one... rolleyes.gif not waiting for the long boot times and application loading is a major plus. thumb.gif
A quality 500W PSU should be plenty for this build...

Do you think something like the V4900 would be more beneficial than say, the 7770s?
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I would have to say go for the Intel build.  Intel has a little better support for SSD's and generally can get that little bit more performance out of them.

 

As previously stated, the 8150 is a great choice, but only really matches Intel when overclocked, in which case, power consumption and heat rises a lot more which is not normally ideal in a work situation.

 

 

 

I would find out which programs they are looking to use.  Currently there are 3 main technologies for accelerating workloads that I'm aware of:

 

1) Nvidia CUDA

2) AMD OpenCL

3) Intel QuickSync

 

It would be beneficial to find out if they already are set on certain applications, or if you can tailor a set of applications that can all leverage one of the above technologies to give them the best bang for their buck.

 

 

 

More RAM is definitely a bonus as well.  Especially when you start getting in to very large I/O intensive projects, you always have the option of running a RAM Drive as a temporary storage for programs to use.

 

 

 

 

 

Now that's my objective opinions out of the way, here's my personal experience and opinion.  As both a Xeon and Bulldozer user at home, I have tried out both systems as production machines.  Here's my thoughts on each:

 

Intel Build:

- Better SSD access

- Cooler

- Less power consumption

- Better performance at stock

 

AMD Build:

- Cheaper overall

- More power when overclocked

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Do you think something like the V4900 would be more beneficial than say, the 7770s?

At that low of a cost, it's hard to say. because I truly don't know. But I know that something like a Quadro 4000 is better for a workstation use than say a GTX 680/690.

Also, Nvidia's GTX series (Cuda GPUS) are good alternatives for a cheap workstation card, maybe look into the GTX 460.
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Right now, they're calling in "contractors" to do Photoshop CS5.5 work on a Q6600 machine.

So realistically, that's not something that's very hard to beat...In fact, an 8150 handily spanks the Q6600...And in looking at encoding stats, it does very well for other programs they'll be using.

I'm tailoring this for CS6, ContentWare, PDF creation, live photo editing so ACDSEE...Etc.

I'm looking to surpass what they have now and improve upon it enough that in 3/4 years, they can still be effective.

I have 0 issues getting a FirePro or a Quadro, I just don't have that much room in the budget as to where I can get a REALLY GOOD one.

I can easily do a PNY Qaudro 600...Or a FirePro V4900...
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yes, id go for an 8150 for what your doing. just make sure to get some good 1600+mhz ram. for a worksataion gpu you will diffenity want a 7000 series amd, they rock at workstation type stuff like this. a 7970 is massivly better in this type of work then a 680 for exemple. i would get one of those, since the 7000 series firepros havnt come yet (i dont think, correct me if im wrong) a 7000 series radeon will do much better then a similurly priced 6000 series based firepro
    
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