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I am very new to this site and I have been trying to play games like world of warcraft and recently diablo 3 on a 2009 mac and its really bad. My brother has recently got a gaming pc so now i want to try to build a gaming pc myself. I have been trying to build a decent gaming pc that can run games like Diablo 3 pretty well My budget it $1200 and I was wondering if I can have some help.



Western Digital Caviar Black 1 TB SATA III 7200 RPM 64 MB Cache Internal Desktop Hard Drive Bulk/OEM - WD1002FAEX



Intel Core i5-2500K Processor



Cooler Master Hyper 212 Plus 120mm Sleeve CPU Cooler, RR-B10-212P-G1



Cooler Master Storm Scout SGC-2000-KKN1-GP No PS Mid Tower Case (Black)



Corsair Enthusiast Series 650-Watt 80 Plus Bronze Certified Power Supply Compatible with Intel Core i3, i5, i7 and AMD platforms - CMPSU-650TXV2



ASUS BW-12B1ST/BLK/G/AS 12X Blu-ray Internal Burner with Disc Encryption, Black


MSI N560GTX-Ti 448 Twin Frozer III PE/OC - NVIDIA GeForce GTX 560 Ti (448 Cores) PCI-E 16X Graphics Card



Corsair Vengeance Low Profile 8 GB PC3-12800 1600mhz 240-Pin DDR3 Dual Channel Memory Kit SDRAM CML8GX3M2A1600C9



MSI Z68A-GD55 (G3) LGA 1155, ATX DDR3 2133 Intel Z68, HDMI, SATA 6Gb/s, USB 3.0, Gen3 PCI-E, ATX Motherboard

Final Price: $1,194.13
Edited by Bebops - 5/23/12 at 3:12pm
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I would replace the hard drive with the Seagate Momentus XT hybrid drive.
750GB Drive
500GB Drive
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It looks like you're considering buying a computer from a pre-built company. Don't. It is very easy to assemble your computer yourself, assuming you can read an instruction manual. This will save you hundreds of dollars and/or get you a far better computer than you would have gotten from a pre-built company.

Assuming you already have a monitor you're happy with (budget ~$100-400 for a cheap to top end 1920x1080 monitor otherwise) consider the following build:

Windows($90)
http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=45271&vpn=GFC%2D02050&manufacture=Microsoft&promoid=1114
This is a one-time use license for the computer you build. Always get the 64-bit version.

CPU: i5-3570k ($228)
http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=70541&vpn=BX80637I53570K&manufacture=Intel&promoid=1114
This is the best CPU for gaming if you want to moderately overclock your processor (added performance). A non-overclocking selection for CPU/Heatsink/Mobo is in the spoiler selection below if that sounds too scary for you.

CPU Cooler: HR-02 Macho ($53)
http://www.amazon.com/ThermalRight-HR-02-MACHO-Thermalright-Macho/dp/B005ERSN7G/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1337814448&sr=8-1
A good performer and one of the quietest cooling fans you can find. Note that it is much easier to install with a very long-necked screwdriver (18ish centimeters).

Motherboard: MSI z77-g43 board ($119)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813130646
Motherboards are all based on the same intel chipsets (in this case the z77), so there's no reason to buy a more expensive one unless you want to do something fancy like overclock super high or get 2 video cards. This one is one of the best 'cheap' mobos because it has 3 4-pin controllable fan headers, while many only have one.

Non-overclocking selections ($298 vs $400) Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
CPU: i5-3450 ($190)
http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=70543&vpn=BX80637I53450&manufacture=Intel&promoid=1114
Slower than K-series processors (as they can overclock), this is what you want if you don't want to spend the time it takes to execute an overclock.

CPU Cooler: None.
Use the stock cooler included with your processor, or get an HR-02 Macho as above if you're obsessive about quiet computing.

Mobo: Gigabyte H77 ($108)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128550
H77 can't overclock, like the z77 can.

GPU: 7850 ($250)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814150609
Strong enough to play the games you mentioned at maximum quality at any resolution, will play even the hardest to run games smoothly at reasonably high, though not maxed, settings for a 1920x1080 resolution.

Possible upgrade affordable if not overclocking or you don't need windows Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
GPU: 670 ($400)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130782
A step below the current best video card (a 680), the 670 will run almost any game at maximum settings on a 1920x1080 monitor

RAM: 2x4GB 1600mhz ($43)
http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=62314&vpn=CML4GX3M2A1600C9B&manufacture=Corsair

Case: Antec p-280 ($100)
http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=65170&vpn=P280&manufacture=Antec&promoid=1114
Case is largely a personal choice. This one is built to be relatively quiet, and is also large. It has a large top-mounted fan which some people don't like. Some of the better options for a cheaper case (from the same website) would be the Bit Fenix Shinobi or the Coolermaster HAF 912.

PSU: XFX core 450w ($40-$10 rebate)
http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=63238&vpn=P1450SX2B9&manufacture=XFX&promoid=1114
Great deal on a quality power supply in the right wattage range. Yes, some online calculators say you'll need more wattage, but they're built to take account of the many terrible PSUs that lie about the power they can provide.

HDD: WD Caviar Blue 1TB ($90)
http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=58881&vpn=WD10EALX&manufacture=Western%20Digital%20WD&promoid=1114
If for some bizarre reason you want even more space, you can get a 2TB drive for $20 more.

SSD: Crucial m4 128gb ($125)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820148442
SSDs are super-fast hard drives that make computing much more luxurious. Not necessary for gaming, but useful for MMOs because they reduce the time it takes to load graphics textures on the fly (which should reduce ironforge lag & make PvP targets just entering into view appear a split-second faster, etc). Otherwise reduces loading times for accessing data on the SSD. Put your OS & most-used programs on here, using the HDD for general data storage & media files.

DVD-burner ($17)
http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=49597&vpn=DRW%2D24B1ST%20Bulk&manufacture=ASUS&promoid=1114

SATA cable ($3) (mobo comes with 2, you have an SSD, an HDD, & a DVD-burner)
http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=53024&vpn=SC3%2D10A%2DBK&manufacture=Mod%2FSmart

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Overall, this is a far, far better computer than you can get from a pre-made. Everything from a better CPU to a better case to a better GPU to an SSD. You could go cheaper if you wanted as well, these is a pretty nice component list overall. Case could drop $50 for a less swanky case, the SSD can be removed, the HDD could be halved in size for $20, etc., etc. If you have $1200 though, the above should be just about perfect for a gamer.

Total Tower Cost (no mouse/keyboard/speakers/headphones/montior - Windows IS included in the price):
Recommended overclocking parts w/7850: $1148
Recommended overclocking parts w/670: $1298
Recommended non-overclocking parts w/670: $1196
Recommended non-overclocking parts w/7850: $1046

P.S. If you don't have a gaming mouse I highly recommend one. I love my Mionix Naos 3200, which is amazingly comfortable for a right-hander. Perfect ergonomics, in my opinion. Although hard-core MMO players might prefer something with a lot of macro buttons, like a Razer Naga.
    
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Wow thank you so much.
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The scout while a good case for some has terrible cable management, one reason why I switched. If you'd like to save money you could also go with an SB Build as you don't seem to be taking advantage of PCIE 3.0 at least you won't "need" it with a 7850 level card.
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Here's build with a 670 that's water cooled

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-3570K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($189.99 @ Microcenter)
CPU Cooler: XSPC Rasa 750 RS240 ($129.99 @ Frozen CPU)
Motherboard: ASRock Z68 Extreme3 Gen3 ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($129.86 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($46.99 @ Newegg)
Hard Drive: Samsung Spinpoint F3 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($79.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 670 2GB Video Card ($399.99 @ Newegg)
Case: NZXT Tempest 410 Elite (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($69.98 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: NZXT 650W ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($85.98 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-04 DVD/CD Writer ($16.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (64-bit) ($87.90 @ NCIX.com)
Total: $1,237.66
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Originally Posted by UltraHoboLord View Post

Here's build with a 670 that's water cooled

Correct me if I'm wrong, but most z68 boards require a bios update to run the Ivy Bridge (i5-3XXX) processors, so you don't want to buy both brand new unless you have some way of updating the bios.

Hobo does bring up a good point though. If you live close to a microcenter, you can often get the CPU there for up to $50 cheaper. You don't generally want to buy other components from them, however (they bring people in with the cheap CPUs and sometimes mark up other parts).
    
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Originally Posted by UltraHoboLord View Post

Here's build with a 670 that's water cooled

Correct me if I'm wrong, but most z68 boards require a bios update to run the Ivy Bridge (i5-3XXX) processors, so you don't want to buy both brand new unless you have some way of updating the bios.

Hobo does bring up a good point though. If you live close to a microcenter, you can often get the CPU there for up to $50 cheaper. You don't generally want to buy other components from them, however (they bring people in with the cheap CPUs and sometimes mark up other parts).

The bios upadate comes on the boards now from what I understand.

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