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5/23/12 at 4:18pm
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Its kinda sad to read this from amd, I was hoping they were trying to fight intel with piledriver.... Even I debating between getting an fx8120 in the mean time, but after reading this my feeling got hurt being a proud amd user for last 8 years, well intel get my money 3570k here I go...

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5/23/12 at 4:19pm
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I think everyone is reading into this too much. They aren't just going to drop out it doesn't work that way. You have to remember that even though bulldozer was a flop, so was ivy bridge in the sense that they hyped it so much and there's little better about it and simply doesn't overclock like sb. Also amd has broken tons of records in the industry and is still the king of performance per dollar on the low end. I have hope for amd!!

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5/23/12 at 4:20pm
i think this is a smart move for AMD, tech seems to be moving toward mobile and cloud computing. of course there will still be a market for enthusiast grade hardware and highpower stuff, but obviously they feel that is not where the money is going to be made in the future. it kind of sucks for us right now, to be without competition in this segment of the market, but AMD needs to do what it thinks is best to survive.
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Originally Posted by GREG MISO View Post

I think everyone is reading into this too much. They aren't just going to drop out it doesn't work that way. You have to remember that even though bulldozer was a flop, so was ivy bridge in the sense that they hyped it so much and there's little better about it and simply doesn't overclock like sb. Also amd has broken tons of records in the industry and is still the king of performance per dollar on the low end. I have hope for amd!!
-Greg


It wasnt hyped to kill everything and its mother like bulldozer was.


I waited for bulldozer.. bought a 990FX board as did many others and I think you'd find a good percentage of those like me that waited for bulldozer have since switched to intel. I bet in the enthusiast market they lost a HUGE amount of customers.
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5/23/12 at 4:22pm
Lets hope their push to heterogeneous computing will be enough to stay competitive with Intel even if their CPU power isn't.
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5/23/12 at 4:26pm
I think Rory is making the right decisions. If AMD were to continue to focus mainly on competing against Intel and their massive R&D budget, they would just slowly keep loosing ground.

Meanwhile, thanks to smartphones, tablets and these paper thin laptops, low cost and efficient processors are in high demand. I'm sad that Intel will lose their only real competition, but maybe, in the future, AMD will develop a many-core architecture that is competitive with Intel's brute force cores.
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5/23/12 at 4:28pm
At least AMD will always have faster GPU's than intel. *fart*

If Piledriver isn't impressive, I'm going back to Intel. (loved my E8200)
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5/23/12 at 4:29pm
Nowhere in that article does Read say anything about AMD's competitiveness in desktop CPU's. He says that “There’s enough processing power on every laptop on the planet today.”

The interview was about AMD's plans in the mobile market, it says nothing about the desktop market. And we already know what AMD is thinking and what they are up to in the mobile market. I think it's pretty obvious from the products they put out for that market segment. And he's right, anyway. If you have enough CPU power in a laptop to drive whatever GPU is in there, that's all you need. You don't need an Ivy Bridge to run a web browser or business applications, watch a movie, or listen to music.

Common sense should be more than enough to tell you that AMD is going to continue to develop desktop-class CPU's, because they still compete there and in the server market, and even if they're de-emphasizing CPU performance in the mobile market, there's still a certain level that is necessary, and that level is going to continue to increase as GPU technology moves forward.

Somebody wrote a "Chicken Little" headline and people bit on it.
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I think everyone is reading into this too much. They aren't just going to drop out it doesn't work that way. You have to remember that even though bulldozer was a flop, so was ivy bridge in the sense that they hyped it so much and there's little better about it and simply doesn't overclock like sb. Also amd has broken tons of records in the industry and is still the king of performance per dollar on the low end. I have hope for amd!!
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It wasnt hyped to kill everything and its mother like bulldozer was.


I waited for bulldozer.. bought a 990FX board as did many others and I think you'd find a good percentage of those like me that waited for bulldozer have since switched to intel. I bet in the enthusiast market they lost a HUGE amount of customers.

The enthusiast market doesn't make your processor successful, unfortunately. We're the minority of the computing world. However, your point is valid.

In response to GREG, IB wasn't a fail. It's fast as anything, it uses less power (albeit not much less, wait for the revision). Bulldozer was slower, clock for clock than prior generation. It used more power as well. Ivy Bridge is faster than prior generation clock for clock. It also consumes less power.

The only thing Bulldozer has going for it is the potential to overclock the ever loving crap out of it subzero temperature wise.
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5/23/12 at 4:31pm
Sad, now Intel can pretty much do whatever they want with pricings
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