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Of all those huge benefits, "faster", and "lower power consumption" were the only ones worth mentioning and those are negligible at BEST. You know what though, forget it. He's already spent the money, he might as well put it in there and roll with it. I'm just tired of you guys pushing others as if they are going to see some kind of glorious second coming after they get Ivy. It's ridiculous.

your kidding right?

everything that i said is worth considering. especially when deciding on which one the get. whats the point in using old outdated tech thats going to be phased out very soon?

and about it being faster, a 4.8ghz overclock on ivy is a 5.2ghz overclock on sandy. keep that in mind. lol.
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People, can we please keep this constructive and not offensive? Quit attacking each other and act mature. Thank you. Fatality, the temps really aren't as bad as people are making them. How fast do you have your 2500K clocked at?

my 2500k is clocked at 4.5ghz @ 1.29v. now to my understanding I can probably get 4.7ghz with the same amount of voltage on an IB cpu. I know all CPUs are different but 4.7ghz seems to be pretty common among IB CPUs kind of like how 4.5ghz was easy to achieve on a SB CPU
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you shouldnt be on overclock.net.
i would never recommend old tech on a website that has a base of people that are in the pursuit for performance.
and i have no idea why you wouldnt recommend ivy, its like you have a personal grudge with it.

This is ridiculous. We've had the same discussion on another thread and I am not going to rehash it, but saying this user has a grudge against Ivy and attacking him for not liking it is ludicrous. We can all read the charts to say Ivy is better, so lets not keep bringing that up. However, if you are going with an i5 and not an i7, you are most likely going for gaming, and while it may yield a frame or 2 better, no one will notice the difference. We are not comparing a 1366 architecture vs an 1155 architecture, so stating that this switch is the same is also ignorant. Ivy vs Sandy is the same architecture, and the improvements are minimal. I've spent a lot of money on my PC and I also considered going to Ivy, but for no real gains (4.5 vs 4.7 is irrelevant for gaming, no one is going to notice the electrical bill drop between the 2, there are no cards out there that utilize PCI-e 3.0 at this time), upgrading from Sandy to Ivy has absolutely no point. I have had reputable users on this site state Ivy is a waste from Sandy, so lets stop talking like its a worth while jump. With that being said, I am not anti Ivy, I just dont think it is worth a dollar more than Sandy Bridge. If you can get it for the same price as a 2500K, great. I, like the other user here, get tired of people treating it like a user who is not running benchmarks is going to notice ANY difference. Sure, it may take 1 second less to convert a CD to mp3s, who cares. Anyone can look at a graph and say "OMG IS SO MUCH BETTER!" but it actually takes someone who knows what they are doing to analyze that data and realize that its worthless.

OP, If you are buying another chip anyways and Ivy is the same price, I don't blame you for doing it. Just be ready for it to function the same as your current PC does.
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nha!wait for the toc(extreme version)rule of thumb for me!stay on the toc!you have extreme?buy the next extreme!
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Originally Posted by Fatality_ View Post

my 2500k is clocked at 4.5ghz @ 1.29v. now to my understanding I can probably get 4.7ghz with the same amount of voltage on an IB cpu. I know all CPUs are different but 4.7ghz seems to be pretty common among IB CPUs kind of like how 4.5ghz was easy to achieve on a SB CPU

Yes, you should be able to get 4.6/4.7 with those same volts on a normal IB chip which will give you a bit better performance. Since you're buying that combo, I would definitely just upgrade to the IB and give the SB up. Normally I wouldn't even recommend you getting IB since you have SB already, but since you have to, yeah put the IB in your rig. It's a small gain, but a gain nonetheless.
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This is ridiculous. We've had the same discussion on another thread and I am not going to rehash it, but saying this user has a grudge against Ivy and attacking him for not liking it is ludicrous. We can all read the charts to say Ivy is better, so lets not keep bringing that up. However, if you are going with an i5 and not an i7, you are most likely going for gaming, and while it may yield a frame or 2 better, no one will notice the difference. We are not comparing a 1366 architecture vs an 1155 architecture, so stating that this switch is the same is also ignorant. Ivy vs Sandy is the same architecture, and the improvements are minimal. I've spent a lot of money on my PC and I also considered going to Ivy, but for no real gains (4.5 vs 4.7 is irrelevant for gaming, no one is going to notice the electrical bill drop between the 2, there are no cards out there that utilize PCI-e 3.0 at this time), upgrading from Sandy to Ivy has absolutely no point. I have had reputable users on this site state Ivy is a waste from Sandy, so lets stop talking like its a worth while jump. With that being said, I am not anti Ivy, I just dont think it is worth a dollar more than Sandy Bridge. If you can get it for the same price as a 2500K, great. I, like the other user here, get tired of people treating it like a user who is not running benchmarks is going to notice ANY difference. Sure, it may take 1 second less to convert a CD to mp3s, who cares. Anyone can look at a graph and say "OMG IS SO MUCH BETTER!" but it actually takes someone who knows what they are doing to analyze that data and realize that its worthless.
OP, If you are buying another chip anyways and Ivy is the same price, I don't blame you for doing it. Just be ready for it to function the same as your current PC does.

This is my exact same sentiment. Me, I went with IB cause I didn't have a desktop (was running off a powerful laptop for a few years) so it was a no brainer for me so I could be ready for PCI 3.0 down the road and what not (this is my rig for the next few years), but if I had an SB rig, I wouldn't have upgraded. Like you said, it's none to minimal gains and that was Intel's intention. They made IB for the new architecture not performance gains. And it worked. I wouldn't recommend IB over SB, but anything older than that I might. You might see a small gain in benchmarks for IB, but real world you won't notice the difference. IB is really for people who missed out on SB like me.

Also, ajslay, there is no erason to attack someone. He's not saying IB sucks, he's just saying that if you already have SB, there's no real need to upgrade to IB and he's right. Most people on these boards reflect that same thought. IB was a tick not a tock. I have a 3770K and still wouldn't tell anyone with SB to upgrade unless they really wanted to for *****s and giggles. But, since OP is already buying it, he should take the IB chip and give up the SB chip.
Edited by Nihilo - 5/24/12 at 7:36am
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This is ridiculous. We've had the same discussion on another thread and I am not going to rehash it, but saying this user has a grudge against Ivy and attacking him for not liking it is ludicrous. We can all read the charts to say Ivy is better, so lets not keep bringing that up. However, if you are going with an i5 and not an i7, you are most likely going for gaming, and while it may yield a frame or 2 better, no one will notice the difference. We are not comparing a 1366 architecture vs an 1155 architecture, so stating that this switch is the same is also ignorant. Ivy vs Sandy is the same architecture, and the improvements are minimal. I've spent a lot of money on my PC and I also considered going to Ivy, but for no real gains (4.5 vs 4.7 is irrelevant for gaming, no one is going to notice the electrical bill drop between the 2, there are no cards out there that utilize PCI-e 3.0 at this time), upgrading from Sandy to Ivy has absolutely no point. I have had reputable users on this site state Ivy is a waste from Sandy, so lets stop talking like its a worth while jump. With that being said, I am not anti Ivy, I just dont think it is worth a dollar more than Sandy Bridge. If you can get it for the same price as a 2500K, great. I, like the other user here, get tired of people treating it like a user who is not running benchmarks is going to notice ANY difference. Sure, it may take 1 second less to convert a CD to mp3s, who cares. Anyone can look at a graph and say "OMG IS SO MUCH BETTER!" but it actually takes someone who knows what they are doing to analyze that data and realize that its worthless.
OP, If you are buying another chip anyways and Ivy is the same price, I don't blame you for doing it. Just be ready for it to function the same as your current PC does.

I do realize that I wont even notice the difference when it is in the computer unless I am benching or something but it is an upgrade nonetheless so I might as well.

Will I get all of ivys new features even if it is in a z68 board? or does it have to be in a z77 board?

and +rep to all who helped thumb.gif
post #28 of 30
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Originally Posted by Fatality_ View Post

I do realize that I wont even notice the difference when it is in the computer unless I am benching or something but it is an upgrade nonetheless so I might as well.
Will I get all of ivys new features even if it is in a z68 board? or does it have to be in a z77 board?
and +rep to all who helped thumb.gif

I do believe with that board, it has PCI 3 capability built in so you should be good. The other stuff is all inside the processor itself.
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I do believe with that board, it has PCI 3 capability built in so you should be good. The other stuff is all inside the processor itself.

Yea the gen3 has pcie 3.0. Guess I will just update my bios and roll with it then. Thanks for the help
post #30 of 30
you guys are way too over sensitive. we are all mature men/woman here aren't we?

i was clearly just saying ivy is faster, and has added benefits. there is absolutely no reason not to get an ivy bridge processor instead of a sandy bridge processor, besides cost of course.

also, like i said before... why get something thats going to be phased out/old tech. im sorry but if i was building a new rig or something, there is no way in hell i would put a sandy bridge in, instead of any ivy bridge.
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