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Dude, you now really qualify for some good karma! Or something! Well 1500 bucks isn't too too bad, my apartment complex is down around 100k after neighbor did some dodgy roof-work, and my family is sitting with about 60% of that (so around 60k us) with no resolution in sight and insurance companies running away and lawsuits and and...

Or you could be a Ukrainian soldier in Crimea...etc...so all in perspective as they say....!

But still think you qualify for some NATO reassurance! ?? There's lot's of great skiing areas in Poland, ever heard of Justyna Kowalczyk? I thought she was your national hero?

Well lets' all hope Putin doesn't get too greedy or bent on empire, otherwise all this will be pretty friggin' academic...worriedsmiley.gif

Remember always (whether Chinese or European..! dumplings in the freezer whether gyoza or piroshki or samosas...gotta have'em)....damn I'm out...
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Hi guys,

I am in the middle (rather at the end) of collecting stuff for 2 socket system
I read this thread from page 100 to the end, and from the beginning to 10. It is too much for me smile.gif

The system:
  • 1 x CaseLabs STH10
  • 2 x Super Flower 1000W Platinum
  • 1 x Asus Z9PE-D8 WS
  • 2 x XEON E5-2687W v2 or E5-2667v2
  • 2 x 64GB Kit* (4x16GB) - DDR3 1600MHz KVR16R11D4K4/64 (128 GB ECC Reg. Kingston 1.5V)
  • 4 x GTX 780TI
  • watercooled (besides motherboard and RAM)
  • noiseless (inaudible) even at full load

Purpose ? Scientific analyses with multi-threading and CUDA, OpenCL.
I don't need 4way SLI, but I will try from time to time to play with Nvidia Surround. But I don't have a time to play games. Only Starcraft
My questions:
  1. Which CPU should i choose??
    2687W v2 has 150 TDP, but this is a box version (3 Y warranty)
    2667 v2 is 130 TDP but this is a tray version frown.gif (1 y warranty:(
    I know the differences between them, but I would like to hear your opinion.
  2. I will try to rise bclk a little. How far I can go? 104 or 110?
  3. Do you have any experiance with watercooling this mobo using EK waterblock? From their page and from the Internet I know that there may be some troubles when using 4 GPUs.... But this chip and VRMs should be cool, right?

It would be nice to hear your opinion.

Kind regards
post #1393 of 2457
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Depends on the pricing. There's no reason to pick a 2687 over a 2667 or vice versa so go with whatever has the best price. CPUs don't die so easily either but for the same price pick the one with the best warranty.

Count on 104MHz bClk for those obscene amount of GPUs (nice system btw, drool-worthy tongue.gif)

Haven't tried watercooling this board because I mainly don't see the point in doing that but I understand why you would do that biggrin.gif. I also watercool the CPUs while they don't really need it. I would advise you to first test the system on air since this board has quite the DOA rate. Then when you verified functionality you can drown everything to your heart's content.

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Thanks for your advices
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Depends on the pricing

the difference in price is about 50 EUR - so it is nothing.
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CPUs don't die so easily either but for the same price pick the one with the best warranty.

hmmm So for me it is a choice between 150 TDP and 130 TDP smile.gif
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Count on 104MHz bClk

grrr. frown.gifsmile.gif Why we don't get what we would like to get smile.gif ??? smile.gif
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nice system btw

at this moment almost all stuff is on the paper smile.gif I will buy all components in about 3-4 weeks. It is not so simple smile.gif
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I mainly don't see the point in doing that

me too. I saw a review (unfortunately I don't have a link) with pictures where this chip and VRM is cool at full load. But still... It would be awesome to use EK waterblocks smile.gif Just for fun.
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while they don't really need it

Yes, but how much space you save using WC ? smile.gif IMO watercooling is a future.
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I would advise you to first test the system on air since this board has quite the DOA rate

Yes, I always do this. And from this thread I know the DOA is a problem.

Once again thanks, maybe someone els would like to say something?
post #1395 of 2457
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I also don't really know what deal you can get on those chips, but unless you need that 3.6GHz clock you should get 2680V2 since they are somewhat faster overall.

E:

Yes, I did it for looks and actually the sheer ease of it (replacing CPUs etc.)
Edited by TheBlademaster01 - 3/22/14 at 5:24am
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http://ark.intel.com/products/75277/Intel-Xeon-Processor-E5-2680-v2-25M-Cache-2_80-GHz

It is slower than

http://ark.intel.com/products/75273/Intel-Xeon-Processor-E5-2667-v2-25M-Cache-3_30-GHz

Maybe you lost one "2" smile.gif ? and you thought you wrote

http://ark.intel.com/products/76161/Intel-Xeon-Processor-E5-2687W-v2-25M-Cache-3_40-GHz

smile.gif ?

2687 and 2667 are the same overall when it comes to power - as far as I read in The Internet. It is because they have exact the same speed with addition of turbo.

E5-2667 v2 base clock: 3.3 turbo mode: 3/3/3/3/4/5/6/7
E5-2687W v2 base clock : 3.4 turbo: 2/2/2/2/3/4/5/6

So they are the same.
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No I mean that 2680V2 you listed tongue.gif

E5-2680V2 turbos to 3.1GHz all core (10 cores) vs E5-2687WV2/E5-2667V2 that turbos to 3.6GHz all core (8 cores). Or E5-2690V2 that turbos to 3.3GHz all core (10 cores).

In performance it is E5-2697V2 > E5-2695V2 > E5-2690V2 > E5-2680V2 > E5-2687WV2 = E5-2667V2 ~ E5-2670V2 > E5-2687W > E5-2690 > E5-2660V2 etc.
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Here is a serious question that will most likely expose my ignorance of the Xeon world, but I am currently running two E5-2609 v2s. Based on what I've seen and read my idea to upgrade to a set of E5-2630 v2 chips makes since. They do cost twice as much so the improvement is a no brain-er.

My question is, for this amount of improvement/cost is it worth it upgrade to this chip?

The pros as I see em are:
-6 cores vs 4
-HT (12 vs 4(ie: none))
-100 Mhz faster
-Able to turbo to 3.1Ghz
-Support 1600 Ram (which I'm using) instead of only 1333

cons:
price (but still significantly cheaper than most of the chips you guys seem to be running.)

2d
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Originally Posted by TheBlademaster01 View Post

No I mean that 2680V2 you listed tongue.gif

E5-2680V2 turbos to 3.1GHz all core (10 cores) vs E5-2687WV2/E5-2667V2 that turbos to 3.6GHz all core (8 cores). Or E5-2690V2 that turbos to 3.3GHz all core (10 cores).

In performance it is E5-2697V2 > E5-2695V2 > E5-2690V2 > E5-2680V2 > E5-2687WV2 = E5-2667V2 ~ E5-2670V2 > E5-2687W > E5-2690 > E5-2660V2 etc.


OK OK now I understand what you mean... Overall performance... You know.. I am still in the world of One core performance:)

But I will perform some benchmarks to measure if 10/12 core Xeon with lower one core performance will be a better choice.

I have to switch to double socket Xeons - I have no choice. But, still I need some high one core power (but I will check it). In a perfect world I would like to have the most cores and the higher per core power smile.gif We know it is impossible.

IMO if more people use real watercooling (not closed loop) Intel would like to make higher TDP chips. ... For example 250 or more TDP: 8 cores, with unlocked multiplier, so we can OC it to 4.4 or higher.
Closed loop WC is good, because people may turn into real watercooling smile.gif

Unfortunately I need both more cores and highest possible performance per one core. That is why I am interested in 8 core Xeons, because IMO they are perfect for me.

But, because you have turned my attention to other possibilities.... I have to consider 10-12 core Xeons:)

Kind regards
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I made a simple comparison of interesting models:
Code:
Model        Base_clck       1_core_[GHz]    All_cores_[GHz] TDP     Cores   Power_*1        Power/TDP
2680v2  2.8     3.6     3.1     115     10      31      0.27
2690v2  3       3.6     3.3     130     10      33      0.25
2697v2  2.7     3.5     3       130     12      36      0.28
2667v2  3.3     4       3.6     130     8       28.8    0.22
2687Wv2 3.4     4       3.6     150     8       28.8    0.19
2643v2  3.5     3.8     3.6     130     6       21.6    0.17
3770k*2 3.5     4.6     4.6     ~150    4       18.4    0.12
                                                        
*1 - All cores frequency x core count                                                   
*2 - an overclocked example             


The same but as an image:

Created with GIMP


So I am confused right now... More One core Power or more overall power ?? smile.gif I have to make some tests.

The darker the colour, the better
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