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Same thing I'm thinking about. I'm wondering if I should buy 2680V2 or 2695V2. I'd like to have some power per thread, but obviously overall power is important to me. For now I'm set on the 2695V2

Maybe this chart will help as well.





@2d

I would say it is worth it. What work are you doing on the rig?
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Same thing I'm thinking about. I'm wondering if I should buy 2680V2 or 2695V2.(..)


TheBlademaster01 I MUST thank you. You opened my mind! Seriously, I thought I had everything set, but it turned out, there are better options than 8 core Xeon...

I made quick benchmarks... I set my 3770k to 3 GHz. No turbo, only 3GHz for all cores... I don't need high GHz per core! This is my first conclusion.... I am shocked... Seriously....
We are talking about 3 GHz vs. 4.6 GHz..... The system (GNU/Linux or even Windows 7) is responsive both when CPU is set to 4.6 or 3 GHz ! One core applications are slower, but we are talking about differences in... 0.5 - 2 seconds ?? smile.gif And it is on old, but still one of the best Samsung 830 smile.gif.

Once again. TheBlademaster01....... gosh... THANKS:) Now i consider 10 or 12 core Xeons. And I don't care much about high one core turbo any more smile.gif I am glad I found this thread and I sign for this forum! smile.gif

I will perform more tests.

Best Regards!
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Glad I could help smile.gif

It's mainly Intel's numbering scheme that doesn't quite make sense. 2687WV2 is a fast processor but with the V2 chips there are quite a lot of faster chips (and cheaper + more efficient ones). I think efficiency and stability are some of the most important features of these platforms.
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Yes, I agree: it is a naming mess.

Can you please explain me, should I care about double memory controller inside 12c Xeons? Is there any drawback of it? I assume, I should populate all RAM slots in this mobo when using 12c Xeons... Am I right?

I am thinking about E5-2697 v2... The only thing which is scary is the price.... But I have one day to make a choice! smile.gif
One thing is certain: No more over-clocking. It is useless in this case.

I wonder if Intel has its own way to find out if the processor was overclocked.
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Double memory controller?

You should populate all DIMMs, but each CPU has a quad channel memory controller. You can however decide whether you want the CPUs to be able to access RAM independently over their own memory bus, or have them fight for bandwidth over the same bus. This can be done in the BIOS by enabling NUMA or disabling it respectively. You should always experiment with which works best for your application. Some applications prefer node aware memory access while others work better when addressed uniformly (or rather randomly) <- typically bad multiprocessor programming. I generally leave NUMA on, it gives you a lot of options within the OS to configure things (not quite as good on Windows 7/8 vs something like Windows Server or Linux distros like Red Hat etc.)

You can't really see if the CPU was overclocked. Just keep in mind that if you overvolt the chips and burn them, they'll likely find out by inspecting the condition of the chip. I think that they should still honor an RMA if you keep that information a secret though wink.gif

But overvolting the chips by that much is completely pointless for these processors since you are limited to bClk overclocking. Which typically ends up being a PCI-E bus/controller limitation tongue.gif
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What can I say smile.gif Your knowledge is priceless smile.gif Thank you, because my Internet investigation was unsuccessful.
You saved me a lot of time smile.gif
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Once again, glad I could help smile.gif. I learned most things in this thread or experimentation as well. It's an interesting platform to work on. You just have to keep in mind that if you take the common road (meaning single processor systems) you are guaranteed to encounter problems, since the majority of the applications can not handle that much cores/nodes (nodes being NUMA nodes or freely translated as 'sockets').

E:

Before I forget to mention it. Make sure your motherboard comes shipped with BIOS version 5206 or later or Ivy processors will not post)
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experimentation as well
smile.gif I do like to experiment too, but... When I buy this machine, I wont do ANYTHING crazy! You know.., I invest A LOT of money smile.gif I don't want to end up crying smile.gif
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You just have to keep in mind that if you take the common road (meaning single processor systems) you are guaranteed to encounter problems, since the majority of the applications can not handle that much cores/nodes (nodes being NUMA nodes or freely translated as 'sockets').

Can you please explain? I don't understand... I will use 2 of these 12c Xeons if I make a final decision.
Linux is well threaded. Software I use is well threaded too.
Is there something more hiding behind NUMA than just memory management?
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Make sure your motherboard comes shipped with BIOS version 5206 or later or Ivy processors will not post
It may be difficult, but I will try. Tomorrow I will call here and there.

The original BIOS version is related to Motherboard version? The version is printed on the silicon? Am I right?

Hesus smile.gif I have bought tons of motherboards in my life and I NEVER was so afraid that something will go wrong smile.gif This mobo is very mysterious.

IMO if Asus put v2 (Ivy) CPUs on their QVL it is no way I will end up with no boot smile.gif But I know from this thread a lot of people had this issue.
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It depends on how long the board has been on the shelf. You can order pre flashed BIOS chips from ebay if it doesn't post though. But you could ask the seller/store to flash the BIOS for you. It will not post on versions before 5xxx series BIOSes and Ivy chips. 5004 will post with Ivy chips but only in combination with ECC ram. 5206 should post on any ivy configuration.

Sadly revision number is not enough to make a conclusion frown.gif

I was more meaning that some games in Windows will not run without issues on these systems. Though typically these problems are solvable. I haven't encountered issues on Linux. You can install numactl to gain control over your nodes and thread bind applications. Works perfectly smile.gif
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I would say it is worth it. What work are you doing on the rig?

Mainly Windows and Android game development. (So running 1 to 2 vms, 3d art work, sound design, etc) Nothing that really requires this type system, but what can i say? I'm an enthusiast. So id like to have good parralel power incase my vm requirements increase and for the rendering advantages, but also want a component gaming machine as well. The 2 2609s are already see to that. So this upgrade is really just to future proof some and improve performance. (based on my cinebench score of 698 vs a 2630 1538 score i can see that it would be quiet the improvement.)

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