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I think those chips would be very much worth it if you can afford them thumb.gif.

You could definitely use the extra cores for the VMs. I really like this platform for how multifunctional it is and only pulling 280W from the wall peak (my Sandy chips). I'd imagine that your Ivy chips would do much better. Go for it smile.gif
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I bought this brand new in Dec. 2013. There are 2 issues, 1 hasn't surface since Jan. So I want to talk about the current issue:

about 3 weeks ago, after I push in a magic jack, and I have to move my 2nd USB keyboard plug because of it, it makes my USB keyboard light faded out of the system. In other words, I can't access my keyboard.

This keyboard needs 2 USB port to power:

http://www.tesorotec.com/gaming-keyboard/tesoro-colada-evil-g3nl-aluminum-backlit-mechanical-gaming-keyboard.html

so the keyboard manufacturer ask me to update the Keyboard BIOS, and the driver and everything works fine since.

Last night, I push in my USB 3.0 CF card reader to the front port of my case, the case is a NZXT Phantom 820 and there is no response. so I push that same Cf card reader to my USB 2.0 front port, and the PC is able to see the CF card. But that USB 3.0 port was working since Dec. 2013.

Then right after that, the light on the USB keyboard faded out for a moment. i.e., the keyboard lost connection w/ the system again.

ANd just now, the same thing happens, almost as if there is a shortage of electricity to the keyboard.

The keyboard is connected directly to the rear of the Z9PE-D8 on the first 2 USB ports.

The USB driver is the 1 that c/w the Asus CD, it says ASMeida XHCI controller, plus the standard USB driver that c/w microsoft

Should I flash the CMOS or update the asus USB driver? Or do you think this is some sort of static electricity issue due to this time of the year?

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The other issue that has somehow go away since Jan. 15 is:

On somewhat rare occasions, there is blinking cursor at the top left corner of the screen right after the Asus welcome screen, and it just hangs there. In the past weeks (Dec. 2013), I only seen that problem during a re-boot. But on Jan. 15, I see it during a cold boot. But it hasn't happen since, so I didn't do anything to it.

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My set up is:

Z9PE-D8 w/ the Oct. 2013 BIOS flash
4 x 4 GB of Kingston non-register Hyper X RAM
Win 7 Pro, SP1
Quad. core Xeon 2.8GHz x 2
1 x Asus GTX 650 Ti Boost on Slot 2
1 x Creative ZxR

Nocuta Heatsink / fan on both CPU with electricity connects to CPU fan No. 1 & 2

The remaining sys. fan is connected to the fan controller of my NZXT Phantom 820 case, so none of the sys. fan port were used

The USB port in the rear of the motherboard are connected to:

2 x USB port for this Tesoro Keyboard
1 x USB port connect to a MMO 7 Mouse
1 x USB 3.0 port connects to a Kingston flash drive

The magic jack is never connect, and haven't connect since the above incident

Everything is brand new purchased in Dec. 2013
post #1413 of 2450
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I must say that these issues are new to me. What model Xeons are they? (if ES what Qxxx number?). Also need to know the exact BIOS version (can be found in main BIOS screen).

What does the motherboard led display if it hangs?
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the xeon is E5-2609, I'll dig out the BIOS Ver. later, for now, it should be the latest, the Oct. 2013 ver., I'll let you know. As to that cursor hang problem, that is back in Jan., I didn't check the Q code, I should have, see at the time, I thought it's a nvidia driver acting up, as the newer driver for fast video card is well known to have problem (from the nvidia forum), so I never thought this is a motherboard issue until it hangs on the BIOS level at start up. If it happens again, I'll let you know the Q code.
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Science,

Apart from cost, why the gtx 780 ti instead of say titan blacks? Iff it's for CUDA development? As far as I understand, the gtx 780's like a lot of the others, are crippled regarding cuda and floating-point performance (although evga is coming out with a 6gb version of the 780 if you can live with that and need vram for say cuda rendering). I would have thought for scientific applications the semi-pro titan would be much better than the gaming-centric 780's. And iff you're running scientific applications which are opencl-based, well then the lowliest amd card will thrash even the titan. Have you looked at benchmarks on your application of choice? Which is?

What an awesome build btw! Caselabs rocks, was just too expensive for me (using 900d) and wouldn't fit under the desk (have 1cm to spare!). Would imagine you really have to sort your airflow and positive/negative pressure to keep all those gpu's cool iff you're not watercooling!

Yeah agree this board and this kind of extreme build with usually minimal support is pretty scary! Thank god for the forums is all I can say! I guess it comes with the territory when you go ba11s out on a build!thumb.gif Good luck and keep us posted!

Blademaster is the man, all-knowing guru on this thread at least! All bow down!

Edit: need an html editor here to be able to embed proper smileys admin!
Edited by squidman - 3/25/14 at 12:11pm
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the xeon is E5-2609, I'll dig out the BIOS Ver. later, for now, it should be the latest, the Oct. 2013 ver., I'll let you know. As to that cursor hang problem, that is back in Jan., I didn't check the Q code, I should have, see at the time, I thought it's a nvidia driver acting up, as the newer driver for fast video card is well known to have problem (from the nvidia forum), so I never thought this is a motherboard issue until it hangs on the BIOS level at start up. If it happens again, I'll let you know the Q code.


You don't really need to check the BIOS version if those are retail. It might be a defective motherboard, or defective keyboard. Does the keyboard work on other computers (correctly)?

It could never hurt to flash the BIOS to the latest version though.
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Science,

Apart from cost, why the gtx 780 ti instead of say titan blacks? Iff it's for CUDA development? As far as I understand, the gtx 780's like a lot of the others, are crippled regarding cuda and floating-point performance (although evga is coming out with a 6gb version of the 780 if you can live with that and need vram for say cuda rendering). I would have thought for scientific applications the semi-pro titan would be much better than the gaming-centric 780's. And iff you're running scientific applications which are opencl-based, well then the lowliest amd card will thrash even the titan. Have you looked at benchmarks on your application of choice? Which is?

What an awesome build btw! Caselabs rocks, was just too expensive for me (using 900d) and wouldn't fit under the desk (have 1cm to spare!). Would imagine you really have to sort your airflow and positive/negative pressure to keep all those gpu's cool iff you're not watercooling!

Yeah agree this board and this kind of extreme build with usually minimal support is pretty scary! Thank god for the forums is all I can say! I guess it comes with the territory when you go ba11s out on a build!thumb.gif Good luck and keep us posted!

Blademaster is the man, all-knowing guru on this thread at least! All bow down!

Edit: need an html editor here to be able to embed proper smileys admin!

Hahaha, thanks for the compliment but I still don't know half the functions of this board (mainly storage) tongue.gif
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In the asus website, it now has a few new BIOS. But it's bug fix for:

1. Improve the FAN curve settings.
2. Patch the compatibility for K4000.

1. Support Windows 2012 R2.
2. Improve compatibility for add-on VGAs while 2 CPUs installed.
3. Improve compatibility for add-on VGAs with Ivy-Bridge CPUs.

Regardless, IF I do flash it, then does that mean I no longer need to clear my CMOS?

the keyboard is "occasional" failure, I'm not convinced it's defective, as when I connect the USB flash drive on the USB 3.0 port , the PC should response, so it could be the motherboard, but I'm hoping it isn't
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Hi folks,

It has been a good year since I posted here - back when the Z9 wouldn't play nice with the K5000 GPU. I ended up selling it as Asus took another 6 months to get the issue straightened out and I simply couldn't afford to have such expensive hardware laying about not doing anything. So the poor rig ended up having an old GTX 480 put in place.

Whilst i'm not looking to go for another Quadro, my other half has been eyeing off a new GPU for general duties. I've been looking at the GTX 770, and wanted to know how the 7 series cards handle with this motherboard - keeping in mind I don't fancy going to nuts with the BIOS updates in case the microcode doesn't support the Corsair RAM or ES CPUs I have in place presently.

Anyone with non-ecc ram and perhaps ES CPUs with a 7 series card in place, id love to hear about your config so I don't go throwing cash at a card that may not work with this tedious motherboard.

Cheers!
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In the asus website, it now has a few new BIOS. But it's bug fix for:

1. Improve the FAN curve settings.
2. Patch the compatibility for K4000.

1. Support Windows 2012 R2.
2. Improve compatibility for add-on VGAs while 2 CPUs installed.
3. Improve compatibility for add-on VGAs with Ivy-Bridge CPUs.

Regardless, IF I do flash it, then does that mean I no longer need to clear my CMOS?

the keyboard is "occasional" failure, I'm not convinced it's defective, as when I connect the USB flash drive on the USB 3.0 port , the PC should response, so it could be the motherboard, but I'm hoping it isn't

I noticed that while flashing the BIOS resets BIOS settings, you sometimes need to remove the battery to truly reset the board (something about the management engine?). I'd flash and remove the battery after it is completed. Make sure that it completed flashing though, you might ruin your BIOS if you power down the system in the process of flashing (but I guess you already know that).
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Hi folks,

It has been a good year since I posted here - back when the Z9 wouldn't play nice with the K5000 GPU. I ended up selling it as Asus took another 6 months to get the issue straightened out and I simply couldn't afford to have such expensive hardware laying about not doing anything. So the poor rig ended up having an old GTX 480 put in place.

Whilst i'm not looking to go for another Quadro, my other half has been eyeing off a new GPU for general duties. I've been looking at the GTX 770, and wanted to know how the 7 series cards handle with this motherboard - keeping in mind I don't fancy going to nuts with the BIOS updates in case the microcode doesn't support the Corsair RAM or ES CPUs I have in place presently.

Anyone with non-ecc ram and perhaps ES CPUs with a 7 series card in place, id love to hear about your config so I don't go throwing cash at a card that may not work with this tedious motherboard.

Cheers!
Dave


Okay this is the deal tongue.gif. I see you have QA91 chips which means you are pretty much in the same situation as I am. The GTX 770 will have the same issues as your K5000 had.

You can only use PCI-E 2.0 cards (Fermi/Northern Islands) reliably on older BIOS versions (pre 3109). Your chips won't post on version 5004 and I read here that someone was able to post with B0 chips on version 5206 (not tested personally).

If you want to use PCI-E 3.0 cards you need SNB-EP C0/C1 (QBxx) or IVB-EP (QDxx/QExx/QFxx) or of course any retail chip on BIOS version 3506 and later.

I have QA8Z chips on BIOS version 3302 and a GTX 780Ti and it's a big headache but I can't upgrade atm (funds tongue.gif). 3206 is crap as well with these chips (doesn't work properly with either the 780Ti or 470), 3109 worked with my GTX 470 but I can't flash back, 0703 worked with 470 (780Ti won't post), 0503 same as 0703. 3506 works somewhat better than 3302 but runs my RAM in Triple Channel rather than Quad (sees the full 32GB of RAM though)

As for the BIOS version I am using (3302). It locks up in Windows sometimes and for some reason can't install OSes to HDDs not connected to the Intel SATA controller. Ubuntu works a lot better but my GTX 780Ti is called GeForce Ashley wth.gif, which causes a whole lot of different problems. Also, I only get display (once in like 3 cold boots) via the HDMI output of my 780Ti installed in PCI-E slot 3 (second blue slot from the top). DVI ports give distorted image and lose signal when booting into all OSes (tested Windows 7, OpenSUSE 12.3, Ubuntu 12.04).

The strangest issues really, though I have a theory as to what is wrong but nothing solid (with proof).
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Interesting, as the issue with the K5000 was actually the 256mb Memory BAR when registering at POST. Which is why the card (K5000) would boot 1 in 4 times - when it got into Windows, all was fine. My GTX 690 works fine, but it only uses a 128mb Memory BAR in the address registers. I actually proved this was the issue (the firmware was badly written on the Z9 - hell there was a primer for exactly how to fix this, as it was a known issue from 2006), via talking with a PNY engineer who sent me a test firmware for the K5000 to lower the BAR to 128mb - worked flawlessly every time, albeit at the price of performance.

Interesting if the 7 series has raised the Memory BAR to 256mb, in which case, Asus still haven't properly solved the issue for the K5000, or are using a band aid fix.

EDIT: The issue was the Z9 couldn't allocate enough resources to satisfy the 256mb Memory BAR requirements of the GPU, just for clarification.
     
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