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I'm in two minds about upgrading though, driving me crazy, got the savings, itching to burn haha...

I think its better to upgrade at the start of a new platform than at the end of one, and the 2011-3 Z10PE-D8 WS and X99-E WS have had their last CPU refresh as far as Xeons are concerned... Xeon V5's will need a new socket.

Plus with pci-e 4, NV-link server platforms, and the Xeon Purley's on the very near horizon, I'd feel a bit gutted forking out on a new workstation, being stuck on a 2011-3 platform and not being able to upgrade to the latest and greatest in the future.

My current system is ok, it does the job I built it for well, so although I'm itching to upgrade to the current Xeons, and 4x Titan Pascal, to cut my render times down to a third, It looks like I will be playing the waiting game again......

I decided not to upgrade to the 2011-3, decided not to upgrade to 4x GTX Titan X's ( Maxwell ) because the 46% performance increase over my old Titans rendering in Iray was not worth the £4K price-tag, but the newer Titan X would definitely be worth the upgrade, as it would cut my renders to a third, and pay for themselves in a few months, but there is a very high probability that we will be seeing a fully loaded GP102 next year..

Anyone else stuck in the in the upgrade now or wait feedback loop?

A dual E5 2699V4 would be about double the rendering performance of what you have now, for example
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If you have the money to buy the newest Xeon motherboard and CPU when they come out, go for it. I just wonder what the prices will be, a basic V3 is very expensive, just imagine a V5.

This is a game you can't always be winning, you can have a year of "being at the top" at most, and only if you get the newest platform as it comes out. Unless you have money to burn, I doubt you can buy 2 of the highest end V5 when they come out. Let's assume you get the cheapest V5s instead. I bet at that moment, a same-priced V3 will be faster because their prices drop. Let's assume you buy the basic V5 anyway. Many months later when you have the money to get the top of the line V5, won't the V6 be soon on the horizon anyway?

Only if the best V3 or V4 you can afford has too little performance for you and/or has very few faster models above it, you can get the mindset that you should wait.

It's my two cents, if you have money to blow and can recuperate the investment in less than a year, go to town

I think its still better to be building a new workstation at the start of a new platform. It seems to be very 2 years a new LGA socket its introduced, but pcie refreshes seem to happen every 4 years. Next year will be the start of both new platforms so it seems like the right time to upgrade.

I'd imagine the price of the V5's especially top end to be cold sweat worthy, but whenever I build a new system I try to put the top end components in so that in 3 or 4 years time when its time to think about upgrading again, I still have a high end system as far as productivity goes.

My 4 year old dual E5-2687W's still have better rendering times ( slightly ) than the new top end overclocked I7 at the moment, so although they were expensive at the time, they've paid for themselves over time.

So if I put Dual E5-2687W v5's in they should be good for a few years. As long as my system can still slightly outperform a single socket i7 4 years down the line for CPU rendering, I consider then a good investment. And I' d hate to be stuck with pcie gen 3, and not get all the potential out of pcie gen4 if I build now on the 2011--3 platform.

Faster render times whether its CPU or GPU means more time for more clients, so although these systems cost a lot to build if you want the latest and greatest, they do earn their own keep over time..

Its hard waiting, but next years seems like the logical way to go..
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I think its still better to be building a new workstation at the start of a new platform. It seems to be very 2 years a new LGA socket its introduced, but pcie refreshes seem to happen every 4 years. Next year will be the start of both new platforms so it seems like the right time to upgrade.

I'd imagine the price of the V5's especially top end to be cold sweat worthy, but whenever I build a new system I try to put the top end components in so that in 3 or 4 years time when its time to think about upgrading again, I still have a high end system as far as productivity goes.

My 4 year old dual E5-2687W's still have better rendering times ( slightly ) than the new top end overclocked I7 at the moment, so although they were expensive at the time, they've paid for themselves over time.

So if I put Dual E5-2687W v5's in they should be good for a few years. As long as my system can still slightly outperform a single socket i7 4 years down the line for CPU rendering, I consider then a good investment. And I' d hate to be stuck with pcie gen 3, and not get all the potential out of pcie gen4 if I build now on the 2011--3 platform.

Faster render times whether its CPU or GPU means more time for more clients, so although these systems cost a lot to build if you want the latest and greatest, they do earn their own keep over time..

Its hard waiting, but next years seems like the logical way to go..

As I said, if you have the money to buy a V5 mobo with top of the line Xeons when they come out, go for it.
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Can someone tell me, what I have to check, if I want to buy a second hand xeon 2670 v1. I don't understand the C1,C2 story. Do more editions of 2670 v1 exist? A german site says this:

SR0KX -> C2
SR0H8 -> C1 -> hier dürfte es einige Probleme bei USB 2.0/3.0 gegeben haben. Details sind mir aber nicht bekannt.
Wenn ihr also die Wahl habt -> C2

If it is possible, buy C2 !
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Can someone tell me, what I have to check, if I want to buy a second hand xeon 2670 v1. I don't understand the C1,C2 story. Do more editions of 2670 v1 exist? A german site says this:

SR0KX -> C2
SR0H8 -> C1 -> hier dürfte es einige Probleme bei USB 2.0/3.0 gegeben haben. Details sind mir aber nicht bekannt.
Wenn ihr also die Wahl habt -> C2

If it is possible, buy C2 !

There are "revisions" or "versions" for each CPU, just like when mobo manufacturers release rev 1.0 1.1 etc to address issues without changing the overall clock, cache etc, it's the same model but with "less bugs" so to speak. However they are FULL RELEASE CPUs, not ES, so it's not like a C1 CPU is a beta version... they all work but SOME TWEAKS AND FIXES can come later.

I personally have 2670 V1 C1 on the Z9

Download CPU-Z and check the value in "Revision". The CPU you buy should be the same Revision
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Hi Guys,
what do you think about 2011-3 E5-2683V3 ?
Single E5-2683V3 - 17955 point
Dual E5-2683V3 - 22362 points

Price 600Eur Ebay

Performance
# of Cores 14
# of Threads 28
Processor Base Frequency 2 GHz
Max Turbo Frequency 3 GHz
Cache 35 MB SmartCache
Bus Speed 9.6 GT/s QPI
# of QPI Links 2
TDP 120 W
VID Voltage Range 0.65V–1.30V
Edited by Jirkas - 9/1/16 at 10:27am
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It is interesting :

Single E5-2683V3 - 17955 point
Dual E5-2683V3 - 22362 points

Only 5000 points more frown.gif for price 600Eur Ebay frown.gif.
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It is interesting :

Single E5-2683V3 - 17955 point
Dual E5-2683V3 - 22362 points

Only 5000 points more frown.gif for price 600Eur Ebay frown.gif.

5000 points more in what benchmark?
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https://www.cpubenchmark.net/

Bleh. It al boils down to what are you gonna use them for. For 3d rendering it's almost a 2x increase going from 1 to 2 CPU's...
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