Is the Gtx 470 still considered a high-end graphics card? (I think it is, but I wanted to hear... - Page 3

fpr that money u get 7870/670GtX which can e compared or beat 470 GTX SLI...
if you compare video card you need to has 2 video card in the same terms: OCED

http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/311?vs=499

and finally a real bench

http://www.overclock.net/t/895590/gtx470-vs-gtx570-comparison-review

GTX 470 is more likely a mid-range video card. because the GTX 560/GTX 560 Ti/HD 6870 are intended at the mid-range market and can easily perform/ outperform this card, and offer better noise, temperatures and power usage by comparison.
Not to mention the new GeForce 600 has put new standards of a high-end performing card. And unfortunately the GTX 470 doesn't meet any of those standards.
Overall it is a good card but it got stomped by newer cards.
I own the card and I like it, but I hate how loud it can be sometimes, and I hate the fact my card is garbage at overclocking. I am upgrading soon to GTX 670 or HD7970, hope I have better luck with them at least.

Here's the deal:

To OCN and similar sites, a single GTX470 setup = mid-range setup
To the rest of the world, a single GTX470 = high-end setup

We have totally different standards here ... running a single 470 would probably put you in the lower 30% of graphics performance of people on this site. But out of all the PC in the world at large, you'd be in the top 1% with this card

GTX470 is an AWESOME card though ... best overclocker ever made in terms of the % of additional frames that can be gained through OC'ing vs. stock. This is especially true on water, or at least with a good aftermarket cooler.

I have two of 'em sitting here that I ran for almost 2 years in SLI, and I'm having a hard time bringing myself to part w/em, even though I could use the dough ...

Okay, well ... rather than accusing people of 'baloney', you should understand that you are stipulating to a bunch of things here that not everyone may agree with in terms of your definition of 'maxed out'.

For example, many of us consider that if you get anything under 40fps (and some would even say under 60fps) EVER ... then your card isn't really 'handling' the settings you've chosen in the game.

By this definition of 40fps minimum, at *any* time during the game, then a single 470 will NOT 'max out' the following games even just using the maximum in-game settings, and 4xAA, at 1920x1200:

BF3, Metro2033, Crysis, Crysis 2, ArmA2, The Witcher 2 (not even including ubersampling being on), Just Cause 2, Mafia 2 (w/physx on high), Batman AC (in DX11, esp. with PhysX on High), Alice Madness Returns (with physX on high), Stalker Clear Sky, Stalker Call of Pripyat, GTAIV (though this is mostly a CPU problem to be fair).

And don't try to tell me I'm full of baloney, because I've run 470 SLI for 2 years (not to mention I'm inarguably one of the biggest champions of the wonder that is the 470 on this board), and I own ALL of those games (except GTAIV ... but I know it anyways). In fact, in a number of them, 2 WELL OC'd 470's in SLI will not even maintain >40 fps at all times.

And although I don't own them, I'd bet a considerable sum of money that both Aliens v Predator and Lost Planet 2 would also dip well below 40fps on occasion when maxed and running 4xAA on 1920x1200 resolution ... given I've run the game benchmarks for these many times, and they can both dip to 40fps even with SLI 470's

Be cool dude, there is no need to take comments seriously to the point it piss you off .
I am only running 1920x1080 and I have trouble maxing out the Crysises.
Crysis 1 with 4xAA+ Very High I get about 25 fps average and below 15 fps during smoke.
Crysis 2 on Ultra + HD textures my fps can go below 10 fps at times.
Skyrim with mods go below 50 fps which is not the ideal for this game, dropping from 60 fps to 50-45 is very noticable in this game (at least for me).

Something must be wrong with your pc, In Crysis with the same settings as you, just one of my cards would be pushing around 60fps. Crysis 2 with max Settings Maxed and HD textures is a different thing, I need to run in sli if I want over 60fps avg. With my 2 OCed cards, I run crysis at 1920x1080 with 16x AA and get a avg of 60fps, min is around low 50's high 40's. In BF3 I play at ultra with MSAA off(v-ram limited), but everything else is maxed. I avg 90-100fps with max around 133 and min 60fps, I play with a 120hz monitor so getting more then 60fps is important to me. The only game that It has problems with is metro 2033 maxed out, but the optimization with DX11 is bad. Though forcing adaptive v-sync though its nvidia control panel settings helps cut down the stuttering.

Even with the Stock cooler my cards were able to push 800 on the graphics core, though they run hot they can easily take it. Plus cards are easy to mod, if you wanted to add a cheap water cooler for it, all you need to do is pick up the antec h2o 620 from micro center for 50 bucks and follow "The Mod" guide. Modify/Flash you videocards bios with an unlocked voltage one, and do the pencil mod disabling OCP. This will let you get mighty close to 900 core.
Edited by DzillaXx - 5/25/12 at 1:56pm

lol what? a single GTX 470 can get ~60 fps in Crysis 1? no way.
Go see brettjv GTX 670 benchmarks in his thread. now that card can get ~60 fps . Unless you have a magical 470 that can match a 670 then this is a different story .
GTX 470 is too weak to max out Crysis games TBH. Even on high settings + AA it won't cut it in Crysis 1 (lag during huge battles).
I don't want to mod a useless card. as I said before I got an exceptionally weak card that can't overclock. so it doesn't even worth to try and waste time to watercool it.
Single 670/7970 would do just fine for me and they easily can match SLI 470s.
Edited by HeadlessKnight - 5/25/12 at 3:31pm

Lets see your results running the assault_harbor benchmark in the crysis benchmark tool using an UNMODDED Crysis 1 at 1080p, VH, DX10, 16xAA ... I'd be keen to see a GTX470 average anywhere near 60fps on this actual 'real gameplay' test.

Don't get me wrong I loved my old 470 SLI setup, it's beast ... but a single 470 can't 'max out' Crysis at 1080p and 16xAA and average anywhere near 60fps. If you think it's doing so, then your AA isn't actually working

Sli 470's playing at 1080p and watercooled are a very sick setup. Overclock the crap out of them and it hard to beat the peformance for the price