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I read a rumor a while ago that Apple is going to drop the Mac Pro completely at the end of this year because not enough people are buying them. The MacBook Pro is meant to get a "major" refresh this year apparently. I think it will because all the concepts over the last few months seem to show that the MacBook Pro is going to be redesigned (or at least the same design, just a lot thinner and a higher res screen)

inb4 patent troll and goin after samsung

Fair enough, we'll see if they are competitive, in the beginning they will have to be in order to gain any market share.

For the record MacPro's primary use is not for server, though they do have a server edition:
http://store.apple.com/us_smb_78313/configure/MC915LL/A?

MacPro's are workstation computers, they are mainly used for Video Editing & Graphic Design, for that purpose you are much better off going with a 3930K + 7970 if you were buying one today for $2500. Even when I bought mine, and their hardware was up to date, it was cheaper to build myself.

If you want to go the Dell route, have a look at this:
http://configure.dell.com/dellstore/config.aspx?oc=t7500_f1_e&c=ca&l=en&s=bsd&cs=cabsdt1&model_id=precision-t7500

It's the same price as the MacPro, but it has superior specs including DUAL E5620
(12M Cache, 2.40 GHz, 5.86 GT/s Intel® QPI - 16 Threads total ) + FirePro V4800 card standard.

Install Photoshop & Premiere CS6 and you're set.

Before I built my rig, I did a ton of research, and getting a MacPro was not cost efficient, and the specs were always inferior. The 5770 for example is just laughable.

Well, Apple is questioning the future of MacPro's
http://www.macrumors.com/2011/10/31/apple-questioning-the-future-of-its-mac-pro-line/

Considering everything I said above, it's no wonder they're not selling well. Workstation users are generally more informed and tend to do research before purchasing.
Edited by 2010rig - 5/26/12 at 4:57pm

But it's still "malware" that grabs passwords and other user info on people's Macs. Even if there is a difference, it's still very misleading to their consumers.Admittedly though, I could not really tell you the difference between Malware and a Virus, I kind of always assumed that Malware was kind of an all inclusive term... what's the difference?

Now you can hold it against Apple:
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/04/29/business/apples-tax-strategy-aims-at-low-tax-states-and-nations.html?_r=2&pagewanted=1

To be fair though, Google, Microsoft most major corporations do the same.
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2010-10-21/google-2-4-rate-shows-how-60-billion-u-s-revenue-lost-to-tax-loopholes.html

And now, this thread is about Apple - Desktop / Laptop pricing :

FIGHT !



Srsly tho, there's no excuse for Apple's pricing of parts. Even if these devices were priced decently at launch. These prebuilds (especially the workstation) were configured years ago and have remained the same ever since, including the pricing ! This is the strength and weakness of Apple. They control which hardware is going into their devices so strictly, that it could never keep up with the latest and the greatest. A failure to drop the pricing on these devices as the components decline in value is just capitalism at its worst (or best if you like). In this case, Apple just aims for the not-so-tech-savy people to buy overpriced, outdated excrete, as if it were new...

Talk about ripping someone off ? Yeah, Apple has the black belt in that.

lol. Thanks?

To be fair?! That's total horse crap! Why does everyone always make that same tired argument? Stop making such behavior acceptable. Besides, to suggest that other companies are on the same level is ludicrous - just read the article. Apple started it all.
I'd say "you're welcome" but I doubt you take this seriously.

The Mac Pro hasn't been updated in over 668 days, so it's using old hardware at the same price it was introduced. And as I've told you before the single processor Mac Pro carries a +$1k price tag over the competition.

So why exactly did you choose that model as your example? And why compare any of Apple's products against a custom built system? Of course you'll get better value from building it yourself. I kind of answered this above, but again this is a very out of date system. You're comparing an "all rounder" to a gaming laptop, that Samsung is 2 lbs heavier and will have poor battery life. And the MacBook Pro is due for an update in a month or two with more powerful hardware. Likewise =) Fair enough. Keep in mind that any upgrades you choose when purchasing your Mac are absurdly expensive -- a slightly larger HDD and 8GB of RAM can run you like $400 from Apple, or $50-$100 from somewhere like otherworldcomputing. Yeah I understand the type of person you're talking about. Well generally Apple's been pricing their products more and more competitively over the years which is great for the consumer. (Although the upgrades are still marked up insanely.)

I consider the iMac to be the best value Mac around and very competitively priced. The competition does have cheaper systems but they're generally lacking in one area or another -- often graphics. I've yet to find another all-in-one which has anywhere near the performance a 6970M does (most can't even match the 6750M), and on top of that is silent as well.

The Mac Mini, and MacBook Air are priced pretty well too. Most choose the Mac Pro (which hasn't been updated in two years and is looking like it's going to be discontinued) or the MacBook Pro (which is often compared to the wrong laptops) to gripe about.

I do believe the Apple HDTV will be priced reasonably, but I still expect there to be similarly spec'd models that are somewhat cheaper. I'm hopeful that Apple does come through with a real innovative way to interact with the TV -- using Siri would be great. Yeah my stance on everything is try them both and see what you like best. There's no OS which is better for everyone. I've never owned a droid, but I'm quite happy with my iPhone. I do know the benefits Android offers over iOS but there's nothing to make me switch. I'm quite invested in the iTunes ecosystem, and most of my products (and my families products) are Apple products, and they all work well together. Haha likewise. I think Apple fanboys are bad, but I think Android fanboys are the worst haha lol! xD

It makes sense to buy what suits you best. With Apple, you've only got one type of product to choose from rather than a varying range like with the competition. And I think we can all agree building a custom rig is the best choice What? Apple didn't come up with the idea of avoiding taxes. It's been done for a very long time and every major corporation does it.
Edited by steelbom - 5/26/12 at 9:32pm