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5/26/12 at 1:16pm
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Hello all,

I am in the process of picking the parts for a build i will be purchasing in September.
Originally I was thinking I would go with the fx-8150 and the crosshair v and 16 gigs of RAM. Primarily because i heard 8 true cores and thought how nice it would be to be able to run 7 VMs each with its own core and 2 gigs of ram while still having a core and 2 gigs for my host.
Then i found out that the 8150 only has 4 FPs. Now I am not so sure. I think the 8150 would still probably suit my needs ,hosting multiple VMs, running decryption software (I am a digital Forensics student), and of course gaming biggrin.gif

I have about $500 to spend on a cpu and mobo. Also, I would like something that OCs well as I will be trying my hand at the art of overclocking, but at the same time will help keep my rig as future proof as possible.

any thoughts, opinions, or advice will be much appreciated.

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5/26/12 at 2:41pm
If youre going to get AMD, get the 8120. $40 cheaper and the same thing with a few clicks in the BIOS. These will definitely come in handy with the multi threaded things youre wanting to do with them, and they overclock very well.

However, and it hurts me to say this, Intel is better in almost every aspect with the exception of costing more. A i5-2500K will outperform any AMD chip in pretty much anything but it does cost $60 more. If you have a Microcenter nearby, you can pick one up for $170 in store only.

So for a tighter budget, you can get a 8120 and a better motherboard as the Crosshair and Sabertooth boards are cheaper than their Intel counterparts but if you can afford it, Intel is the way to go.

There is also the Ivy Bridge processors but theyre not much more than 5% faster than Sandy Bridge if that and dont overclock quite as well. Add that to them costing $20 more and the 2500K is the way to go.

For $500 and heavily threaded stuff, Id opt for something like a i7-2600K for $300 and a Asus P8Z68-V Pro motherboard for $190.
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5/26/12 at 3:00pm
To be honest, you would be better served either going Intel (I know, I know) or waiting for Piledriver. For your budget ($500 for cpu/mobo) and time frame (September) BD is a less than optimal choice to get. If you really want to though, the FX 8120 is the cpu to get. For a motherboard I recommend one of these depending on what you want to spend on a motherboard:

ASUS Crosshair V Formula

GIGABYTE GA-990FXA-UD5

ASRock Fatal1ty 990FX

GIGABYTE GA-990FXA-UD3

ASUS M5A99X
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5/26/12 at 3:05pm
I agree with the guys above me. Intel all the way. The only way I'd ever recommend a FX-8150 to someone is if they already have an AMD motherboard that they can use. When you're starting from scratch, unless you have some kind of brand loyalty towards AMD, there's no reason to get an AMD build.
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5/26/12 at 3:05pm
BD is good for virtualization (including IOMMU). BD is not future proof.

However, SB or IB is better for encryption and gaming. It lacks VT-d (same as IOMMU).

Rig A:
* FX-8120
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* Intel i5-2500K/3570K
* Biostar TZ77XE4

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* Intel i7-2600K/3770K
* Biostar TZ77XE4

Rig D (limited overclock, but comparable to Rig C and cheaper. Has VT-d support):
* Intel Xeon E3-1245 v2
* ASRock Z77 Extreme4
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5/26/12 at 3:40pm
If you can spend $500 for CPU and motherboard then I recommend i7 3770 + Z77 motherboard

Keep in mind that non-k version of i7 3770 can overclock to 4.1GHz by just modifying the multiplier
http://forums.guru3d.com/showthread.php?p=4306785
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5/26/12 at 3:49pm
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Thank you guys for all the quick responses Kinda sounds like Intel is in the lead

what do you think of this:

ASUS P8Z77-V LGA 1155 Intel Z77 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard

Intel Core i7-3770 Ivy Bridge 3.4GHz

and considering I am planning on getting a gtx 670, Ivy Bridge with the PCIE 3.0 would be nice
Edited by sda1 - 5/26/12 at 3:59pm
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5/26/12 at 3:59pm
I'd probably will swap down to P8Z77-V LK to save some money, unless you need extra features on P8Z77-V.

If you are not into K CPU then Xeon E3-1245 V2 is a better buy.
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5/26/12 at 4:06pm
the LK is a bit light on vrms and sata ports isn't it? wouldn't the Biostar TZ77XE3 or Asrock Z77 extreme 4 be a better buy?
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5/26/12 at 4:20pm
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Why would you not get a K sku?? That makes absolutely no sense..OP already said they wanted to OC..There's no overclocking experience without a K Intel cpu..
or a Black Edition AMD.
Intel Motherboards:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813138344 Cheaper..6+2 power phase..decent and solid enough to push a SB/IB chip to max..teetering on safely biggrin.gif
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813138317 p67 chipset..IMO better for OCing..Solid board here.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813138355 This is the best one they have..It looks nice ..same price as p67..I'd seriously consider this one :thumb.gif:
And..to what IMO is the best http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131830 and
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131819

Intel CPUs:2500K,2550K,2600K,2700K,3570K,3770K ..that's it there..

for AMD..Sabertooth 990FX or Crosshair V for motherboard.
or go a little cheaper with biostar tz990fxe also gigabyte ud3(990)

and really ..you could get any little chip and throw it in there to practice overclocking..
Ranas are good..I may get one tonight biggrin.gif..Callistos..regor..propus..Thuban..Deneb..Thuban is the best,IMO...1100T,1090T,960T....all the others (thubans)have locked multipliers..
not AS big of a deal with AMD because you can still OC heavily wink.gif
LOcked multiplier and low headroom FSB on current-gen Intel means you really can't overclock at all frown.gif


i'd stay away from FX cpus until the fall..maybe even avoid them then..

Since you mention future-proof..I'm going to have to vote for Intel..but AMD is more fun to me biggrin.gif
Too bad they haven't made much advancement in 3 years redface.gif


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