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It is with no small measure of pride and satisfaction that I can finally introduce to you the long-awaited Apogee Drive II integrated pump & water-block.

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"Like a phoenix rising from its ashes, the Apogee™ Drive II integrated pump & waterblock returns to take its place at the helm of Swiftech's CPU waterblock product line. "


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A little bit of history..


Derived in general concept from the original Apogee Drive initially released in 2007 and discontinued in 2009, the Apogee Drive II much differs from the original in terms of its execution.

The original Apogee Drive was conceived as a relatively low cost unit, using injection molding for its body, and the entry-level MCP350 pump. It came with the bare essentials. But from a manufacturing stand-point though, the concept turned-out to be the product's Achilles heel: upgrading the body to accomodate new CPU socket form factors was impractical and we just couldn't cost-justify it.

In contrast, the Apogee Drive II is conceived as a luxury vessel: its uses the MCP35X, the best pump in our line-up , a precision CNC machined water-block body that lends itself to easy upgrades for future socket form factors, adjustable inlet and outlet ports, a heatsink to further cool the pump, LED illuminated logo in a choice of 3 colors, braided cables, and our now famous retention system. The only concession to cost that we made was to not bundle all the retention systems into one sku, and to make 3 separate product versions.

And how does it perform ?


Performance wise, the charts below speak for themselves. The Apogee Drive II is undeniably the new King of the Hill:

APD2-Flow-Rate.png


The following two charts compare thermal performance while the Apogee Drive II is added to an existing loop, for a total of two pumps in operations:

APD2-Perf-Data-2600K.png


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The following chart compares thermal performance of a conventional setup versus one where both water-block and pump have been replaced by an Apogee™ Drive II (1 pump in operations):
APD2-Perf-Loop-3930K.png

And now for the long-awaited internals:

APOGEE-DRIVE-II-NO-PUMPX600.jpg

APOGEE-DRIVE-II-HOUSINGX300.jpg

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Well, this pretty much concludes this product introduction. There is a bit more information on the product web page, so just head over there if there is anything I didn't cover here.

I hope you guys will like using it as much as we enjoyed making it. I also want to take this opportunity to publicly thank Stephen, our thermal engineer whose brain-child this is, and Alex our plant manager for working so hard at producing another great quality product!
post #2 of 82
Looks great! Nice idea, great concept, good performance biggrin.gif
I assume then that this pump can push enough water for GPUs too?
I would love to see a comparison between this and an MCP35X + Raystorm (or other competitor's block)
Also I would have recommended just a white or see through plate too for the illumination. White works with everything and is a popular color too. smile.gif
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Originally Posted by csm725 View Post

Looks great! Nice idea, great concept, good performance biggrin.gif
I assume then that this pump can push enough water for GPUs too?
I would love to see a comparison between this and an MCP35X + Raystorm (or other competitor's block)
Also I would have recommended just a white or see through plate too for the illumination. White works with everything and is a popular color too. smile.gif

You are correct.

It's already been done by third parties (in a sense) here: http://martinsliquidlab.org/2012/03/22/i7-3930k-cpu-swiftech-apogee-hd/4/

You can see that the HD edged the Raystorm.

and in our labs, the Drive edged the HD.

White light: hmm, that's a good suggestion. TBH we never even thought about it. It wouldn't be too hard to add a transparent acrylic insert to the next production batch. But we'd have to try it first. We needed a strong LED for the colored acrylic plates, and I am concerned that a fully transparent plate might be too bright.Maybe a transluscent white.
thanks for the suggestion.
post #4 of 82
Any testing with and without the heatsink on ? -
post #5 of 82
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Any testing with and without the heatsink on ? -

with respect to CPU thermal performance. : no

with respect to pump motor cooling: yes - I don't have the data handy, but it was substantial.

this is a reliability feature, not a performance feature.
post #6 of 82
Could we get a picture of the inside of the CPU block part? As nice as they look I don't care as much for pump internals. tongue.gif
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post #7 of 82
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with respect to pump motor cooling: yes - I don't have the data handy, but it was substantial.

this is a reliability feature, not a performance feature.

But it will work fine without ? - Just thinking that your MCP35X standalone dont got the heatsink on.
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Is this available yet?

If not, any eta?
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post #9 of 82
Wow, this might be perfect for mATX and mITX builds.... i wonder what the price point will be.
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i wonder what the price point will be.

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