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5/28/12 at 8:48am
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Which one is good for a 3930k. Am i just blowing money with the rx360 or is that extra 140$ worth it. I want to see my new 3930k hit 4.7ghz, closer to 5 if possible. Other thing anyone have any thoughts on these kits. How much of a step up is it from the corsiar h100. What is maintenance like with one of these loops. This would obviously be my first loop installation, is it hard?
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5/28/12 at 8:55am
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Which one is good for a 3930k. Am i just blowing money with the rx360 or is that extra 140$ worth it. I want to see my new 3930k hit 4.7ghz, closer to 5 if possible. Other thing anyone have any thoughts on these kits. How much of a step up is it from the corsiar h100. What is maintenance like with one of these loops. This would obviously be my first loop installation, is it hard?

If is only CPU take the RX240 kit, if you are going cpu / gpu loop the RX 360 would be the choice
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I went with the RX360 even with an only CPU loop , first of all its a question of the space you have , if you have the space then think about if you ever plan to cool a GPU or mobo etc , you will be able to go slower on your fans thus quieter . I love the RX360 but now that im going sli cards I need do buy another rad , an rx 240 , so I could have done the opposite .. Either way 2 great rads and if you get the custom kits with dazmode theyre pretty cheap .
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5/28/12 at 9:05am
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i would like to eventually have my loop on my gpu. Thats when i get a new one though. I don't need it on a single gtx570 twin frozr. Is it hard to extend your loop to a gpu. I am sure there is something on frozencpu that explains it. Is it neccesary if you have a good gpu that comes with dual fans. I guess i won't really know because i want 2x gtx 685 when and if they are released. Who knows they might be hot.
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extending your loop is nothing , add a couple more lines , every component has an in and an out and its a matter of putting everything in a line and the rule of thumb is minimum 120mm rap per component and ideally one extra 120 , so just a cpu is at least a 120mm rad , cpu +gpu is at least a 240 mm but I would definitely suggest a 240 right off the bat and the 360 if you plan on watercooling your gpu .. also, when you shop for your graphics card always keep in mind that to fit a block on it easily it must be a reference design , use this website: http://www.coolingconfigurator.com/step1
this will tell you if there is a full size waterblock for the graphics card you are looking for , and motherboards as well if you want )
I have a website where I buy all my watercooling products , its canadian so you might be better off buying on frozen cpu but the owner does have very good tutorial videos on every part of making a custom loop from fittings to rads to hose , look it up its worth it
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5/28/12 at 9:48am
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extending your loop is nothing , add a couple more lines , every component has an in and an out and its a matter of putting everything in a line and the rule of thumb is minimum 120mm rap per component and ideally one extra 120 , so just a cpu is at least a 120mm rad , cpu +gpu is at least a 240 mm but I would definitely suggest a 240 right off the bat and the 360 if you plan on watercooling your gpu .. also, when you shop for your graphics card always keep in mind that to fit a block on it easily it must be a reference design , use this website: http://www.coolingconfigurator.com/step1
this will tell you if there is a full size waterblock for the graphics card you are looking for , and motherboards as well if you want )
I have a website where I buy all my watercooling products , its canadian so you might be better off buying on frozen cpu but the owner does have very good tutorial videos on every part of making a custom loop from fittings to rads to hose , look it up its worth it
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I have one more question. How does one add another radiator. You said a rule of thumb is 1 120mm rad per componet. How do you add another. Just get more hose and run from one rad to the next through the output of the first rad. wouldn't you need a bigger reservoir for liquid to accommodate the extra rad.
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wow i feel kind of stupid about that last post. It would matter cause the extra rad would hold more water. So you might have to add a little extra water. Lol maybe i should go back to school before i put a liquid cooling loop in a 2500$ pc.
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No man I started on water about 6 months ago , theres not a whole lot to it and eventually you would need more res , just because it would pump water through everything faster than its coming back in but you need quite a bit for that , the bigger res just means your water has more time to sit and cool down before its sent through the loop again , you get slightly better results but its not necessary for a smaller loop with standard overclocking. Many people have different loop orders but generally you want to go from the OUT of your pump to your CPU because it generates the most heat and then to your GPU then rad then back to RES and finally res to pump . If you have 2 Rads you can go to your CPU then to your smaller rad then GPU then bigger rad - res - pump . But a good thick rad like the rx360 can get you really far , im running CPU and 2 gtx 570 2.5gb cards through it , worst comes to worst you just cant run your fans on the lowest setting , speed them up a bit more sound but it gets it back down to ambient temps.
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No man I started on water about 6 months ago , theres not a whole lot to it and eventually you would need more res , just because it would pump water through everything faster than its coming back in but you need quite a bit for that , the bigger res just means your water has more time to sit and cool down before its sent through the loop again , you get slightly better results but its not necessary for a smaller loop with standard overclocking. Many people have different loop orders but generally you want to go from the OUT of your pump to your CPU because it generates the most heat and then to your GPU then rad then back to RES and finally res to pump . If you have 2 Rads you can go to your CPU then to your smaller rad then GPU then bigger rad - res - pump . But a good thick rad like the rx360 can get you really far , im running CPU and 2 gtx 570 2.5gb cards through it , worst comes to worst you just cant run your fans on the lowest setting , speed them up a bit more sound but it gets it back down to ambient temps.

Errr, that's simply not true. Having a bigger reservoir will not give you better temps unless we are talking about HUGE amounts of water vs TINY amounts of water. As in, a pool versus a bay reservoir.

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I would go with the 360 since you plan on adding a GPU loop later it will save you some time and effort. When you add the GPUs in the future you would be able to get buy on just the 360 (with ok temps depending on your fan speeds) or you can add another rad (a 120 or a 240) and get great temps. Adding them is as simple as draining the loop and running the tubing to the extra components. Nothing complicated there.

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