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[First Build] Ivy Bridge Gaming Rig Under 1000 CAD$ [Prototype]

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So I'm starting this summer with a build I'd like to make. Never built any computer before, but I helped my dad build and upgrade some, so I have some knowledge.

This gaming rig is meant to take on games like Diablo 3, Starcraft 2, Guild Wars 2, Battlefield 3, Borderlands 2, Crysis, Dishonored, and crush their puny graphics. I'd like some decent graphics on 1920x1200, not the best, but close. I heard with these components I can run BF3 on 1080p at Ultra and still get decent FPS. Mind you, the max fps for my screen is 60, so I don't care about having 120+ fps.

I'm canadian, so the pricing is going to be in canadian dollars. Since I'm a student, I need to keep it budget, so no fancy lights and stuff. 1000$ includes taxes and shipping.

The rig itself to date:

I plan on overcloking a bit, since everyone says it's easy with this mobo.

I don't really care about SLI, at least for the moment since I'm pretty broke. Also, I already have a monitor, keyboard, mouse, and external DVD drive to install windows (who uses disks these days anyways?). I also already got an external 2TB HDD for storage. This computer will be exculsively for gaming. Price so far is 1022$ (over 22$ because of Purolator shipping).

Any tips? Is everything in this computer compatible? Will it run? Will it blend?

Thanks smile.gif

Ps: Any onther canadians out there wanna point me to some decent hardware physical stores in the region of Ontario or Quebec?
Edited by Corn3bus - 5/29/12 at 3:38pm
post #2 of 7
If your really on a budget, and not looking to use the Z77 specific features I think you would be better off getting a better P67 board for the same amount of money. A P67 board around the same price will leave you with the option of SLI/crossfire in the future, and possibly more OCing headroom. Unless your looking to use the specific features of Z77 like SSD caching, quick sync, or the integrated graphics you'd be wasting money on Z77 or even Z68. If you plan on doing any real overclocking, I'd recommend you also save the money and go for a 2500k instead, it will run cooler and likely give you higher clocks. Ivy brigde isn't bad, but if your on a budget a 2500k is a better bang for the buck, and it overclocks better.

As for the power supply, I'd stay away from OCZ PSUs. They are not known to be the most reliable, and have a pretty high RMA rate .The corsair TX750 is only $10 more and a much better unit.

http://ncix.com/products/?sku=58382&vpn=CMPSU-750TXV2&manufacture=Corsair
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Alright, update time. I changed suppliers to Microbytes. since they are 15 minutes away by foot from my home.
  • Corsair 750w PSU - I'll trust your judgement and I know Corsair is a reputable company.

I'll stay with the 3570k since it is literally 2$ more than the 2500k. Proof:

3570k vs 2500k

Also, wherever I read reviews for the P67 mobos, they were never great, so can you point me out on which one you were talking about? The other P67s that were well rated were above 200$, which is a bit excessive for me. I also only trust ASUS for mobos, I'm not a fanboy, but out of the dozens of computers my father built, they were the mobos that lasted the longest and were the easiest to use and install, so point me to the mobo you were talking about, I'd like to see it. I was planning to use some of Z77s features, and I was also taking it because of better compatibility with future technologies. I'd like to switch to 2500k, because users have more experience with it and it is a good CPU, and I might do so since I think Z77 mobos also support Sandy Bridge.
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P67 are great boards, and nearly identical to the newer chipset. P67 is just missing the couple extra features that the Z68/Z77 offer, which I mentioned before. Most of us enthusiasts don't use these features, and I'm sure most here on OCN would only recommended you a P67 board if you were on a budget. The problem with P67 now is finding one as they are not being produced any more. If you have already searched and you can't find any cheap ones, there may only be the higher end boards left. A buddy of mine just grabbed a ASUS P67 Deluxe for $150 off newegg last month, which is one of ASUS's highest end boards. I also am a big fan of ASUS, they have always treated me well. I'm not sure what p67 reviews you saw that weren't great, as Z68/Z77 doesn't perform any differently just has a few added features, that for real enthusiasts matters little to none. However if you would like to use those features, then of course P67 is not what you want. However very few people actually use the SSD caching, even fewer quick sync, I'd say the integrated graphics is the most useful feature of Z68/Z77. If your not going to use these features, you will be wasting your money and limiting your self to a cheaper quite limited board. If you want Z77 go for it, but your going to have to spend more than $150 for a decent board, if you intend to overclock. I know you don't intend to crossfire, but things can change rather quick, you may feel good saving money or going for the Z77 now, but in the future you may come to regret it as you become familiar with the real limitations this board offers. Just really think it over, ask yourself what is it that your REALLY going to do with it, and since you want to shop locally, take your time and wait for deals. I know shopping can be tricky in Canada, if your near the Toronto area there are really good NCIX stores in the greater Toronto area, and in Markham, ON.

If the price is only $2 different, I'd personally go for the 2500k, but if your not looking to push 4.8ghz or higher the 3570k may be a better choice for you, but that is for you to decide. Most of us here get more pleasure from overclocking, then simply having the extra performance. So I can't really give you an unbiased answer in regard to CPU selection.

As for CPU and motherboard compatibility, all sandy brigde CPU's are compatible in all LGA1155 boards (P67/Z68/Z77), however with ivy bridge again all the LGA1155 boards support it, but some of the older P67 boards may need a BIOS update in order to support ivy bridge.

I hope this is of help to you, good luck! thumb.gif
Edited by Fatt - 5/29/12 at 2:24pm
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I called my nearby suppliers and they are all out of stock for the ASUS P67 and won't order some (figures, they want to sell the pricier boards), so I'm stuck with either a Z77, Z68 or H67 (which is micro-atx I believe). The only thing I can find in my area is an EVGA P67, and it is 250$+. I can go for a higher end Z77 or Z68 mobo, if you recommend it, but I do not plan to overclock a lot, I think i'll stay in the 4.3-4.6GHz. I'm going to the store tomorrow to check with the owner if I can find a higher-end P67, but I can't promise anything. My intuition tells me I'll be stuck with the newer ones.

It annoys me I cannot find some older mobos in my area, all the stores have cleared out their inventories of them. I'm on the border between Quebec and Ontario, so Ottawa and Montreal are the closest cities from me.

Meanwhile, I'll get the other components, and start taking pictures!
post #6 of 7
Well even 4.3ghz to 4.6ghz is not as easy to achieve with ivy over sandy bridge. But it's 100% within reason, if you want to push those clocks your going to also have to look into an aftermarket cooler. If you would be happy at 4.3ghz, you could get a away with a CM hyper 212. Any more on ivy bridge and your going to need a more expensive cooler. Remember ivy bridge runs warmer than sandy bridge, so your going to have to spend more to keep it as cool. If you can't find any P67 boards, then maybe try and grab a Z68 board, assuming you can get a better one for the same price. But since you want to shop locally, your going to be quite limited, and even a low end Z77 board will do what you want now, you would just be sacrificing overclocking headroom, and SLI/Crossfire. A low end Z77 should clock up to 4.3ghz or so, but going past that isn't so guaranteed but still quite possible.
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Alright, I'll check the Z68. Online reviews, Newegg in particular, don't seem promising, many users are having problems, though I'll check with my store for more info. I do have access to a micro-ATX ASUS Maximus IV for a great price, I'd like to keep the mobo under 200$ for this build.

4.6GHz is the absolute max I was considering, 4.3GHz is the max I wanted to go for this build, because I'd like to overclock when I have more experience (and money). I might as well not even overclock this system if it runs games well.

I was also considering a Corsair H series for a cooler over the 212, but as I said earlier I do not plan to really overclock, thoughts on the H series (specifically the H60 or H80)? Moreover, my case is a full tower ATX, and there is a ****ton of airflow with only 2 fans installed (I currently have 4 120mm fans ready to be installed in addition).
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