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But I'm an idiot rolleyes.gif

Bear in mind the warning about the 4 pin Molex pins though. I think Nils mentions it in the guide he sends out with the tool.
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But I'm an idiot rolleyes.gif
Bear in mind the warning about the 4 pin Molex pins though. I think Nils mentions it in the guide he sends out with the tool.

+1 on the round molex pins. I have a spare mdpc crimper that I use for those, as it will and does eat up the "v" bite on the crimper.
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Originally Posted by Big Elf View Post

But I'm an idiot rolleyes.gif
Bear in mind the warning about the 4 pin Molex pins though. I think Nils mentions it in the guide he sends out with the tool.


Hehe, we are all idiots(in a good way) when it comes to our love for this hobby. biggrin.gif

About the molex 4 pins, I do have one that does a very good job with those pins so I will delegate 4 pin molex duty to that one and save some ware and tear on the MDPC wink.gif
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I use the Blue handled HT-225D tool that PPCs stock for the 4 pin molex pins.
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I use the Blue handled HT-225D tool that PPCs stock for the 4 pin molex pins.

I use to use that for fan pins lol AND WHO YOU CALLEN AN IDIOT tongue.gif
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I used to use it for fan pins, then the SN-28 and now the Molex 63811-1000 hand tool.

Nope, apparently I'm the only idiot who couldn't do fan pins with the MDPC-X tool
















Oh, apparently there's someone else biggrin.gif
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So now I need the MDPC crimper, and another crimper (e.g. 63811-1000) for 4 pin peripheral pins (e.g. 02-06-2101) to avoid damaging the notch in the MDPC punch? How many 4 pin peripheral crimps do you think it take for the MDPC's punch to wear out?

 

MDPC Crimper:           ~$72 shipped

63811-1000: guessing ~$38 shipped

Total:                         $110

 

Might as well spend $45-$75 more for a NIB(New, In Box) ratcheting Molex crimper like the one linked in the FAQ. Note: I haven't really looked into the prices of the ratcheting Molex crimpers, so I was guessing the price range. But I have seen a NIB one for $156 shipped. The price may vary between models due to demand.

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I haven't used the MDPC-X crimper for the 4 pin molex type pins so Lutro0 is the one to tell us how long it lasts.

While I quite like the 63811-1000 bearing in mind it's limitations and can crimp the ModSmart molex pins on a single wire I can't crimp dual wires with it. I'm not saying it's impossible just that after about 20-25 pins I still haven't done it successfully even once, it just destroys the rear wing on the insulation crimp. Also I had difficulty crimping the Phobya molex pins (probably about a 20% success rate and they looked ugly) so the tool seems to be sensitive to the exact dimensions of the pin you use or maybe it's just that you need a lot of experience with it that I haven't yet got.

I use the HT-225D tool for crimping the 4 pin molex pins and it will crimp dual wires, it doesn't look pretty but it's a reasonably robust crimp. You can also crimp those pins with small nosed pliers quite easily and that's what I used to do before I got a crimping tool.
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I've been using the FTW PC crimper version for fan pins. I manage to screw up at least 1 in 3, but that's because I can hardly see the darn things. But I can usually get a good crimp if I use needle nose pliers to fold over the bare wire crimps before sticking in the crimper. The pins I have are those darned "winged" type from the way they are joined on a strip, but I just clip them off with my side cutters. I finally ordered some fan pins from PPCS after seeing Lutro0's link and hope they work better, although I don't have any more to do at this time I like to be prepared. Only problem is there is only a few on a strip from PPCS and I like to have plenty for when I inevitably crimp one wrong and break it.

When I DO get it right with the tool I have it will crimp the entire pin and fold over the insulation perfectly. ATX pins are actually harder for me to crimp and I've had to clip and shorten wires a few times, though it's not really noticeable.
If I ever see a cheap deal on a good crimper though I will get it, I've just put so much into this build that the wife is starting to grumble a bit. tongue.gif "what did you buy now?" "just some more compression fittings" says me. "for $100? how many did you get?!!" "just a few snakes and triples" says me. lol.

EDIT: I forgot to ask, does someone have a link for the small pins that go in the mobo USB 2.0 plugs? I'm assuming those and the front panel things like HDD led's ect that plug into mobo are the same pins? Or not?
I got some 2, 5, & 10 pin housings from Newark and Mouser with the proper spacing, (thanks to Big Elf's links!) just don't have the pins I need....
Edited by mandrix - 7/13/12 at 4:19am
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Ah, Lutro0, I don't know if you have this in any of your guides or want to add it but: Some (all?) Seasonic branded ATX cables have of course the normal 24 pin housing on one end, on the psu side there is both 10 pin and 18 pin housings. The US supplier for Seasonic is Antron Electronics, the Sales Manager's name is George Lai george@antronelectronics.com. They have both white and black housings.
ModDIY in Hong Kong has these connectors as well which might be better shipping for non-US residents, IDK.

I pretty much destroyed mine trying to get the pins out and had to order new ones to make up new cables.
HTH someone.
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