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post #261 of 1109
Yes, I didn't use bigger wire or double wires when I recabled it.

I just tried to look up how much current could be going through these cables. I found some sources saying that motherboards are drawing up to 50-60 watts. At 12 volts that would make 4-5 amps. There are 2 +12V wires in the 24pin connector. So you've got a worst case of 2.5A over a single cable. The calculated voltage drop (calculator) is 0.1V for 18AWG wire (3ft length) and 0.06V for 16AWG wire. So the difference would be 0.04V, which really isn't that much (0.33% of 12V) wink.gif

Please keep in mind that this was a worst case scenario! That means all the current has to go exclusively through the +12V lines and the motherboard has got to be under full load.
post #262 of 1109
ok cool - thanks for all the input and info - it was extremely helpful - i now feel alot better about leaving out the double wires and understand alot more as to why they were there and what they were for - biggrin.gif
post #263 of 1109
Likely someone has brought this up before but: I'm getting ready to make a new cable set and sleeve it, and so I ordered some Seasonic connectors from modDIY. They include pins with these, and after looking at them I'm just going to throw them away. The rear wings that clamp on the wire insulation are really short, I'd be afraid to use them.
post #264 of 1109
@Furion - i wanted to ask why you went with 18awg wires instead of 16awg ?
@mandrix - the pins from performance pc's are the same way - i ised them but i had to back the tension down on my crimper in order to use them - not only short wings but the entire end that holds the insulation and the wire just isnt that great - the pin part was gold plated and they were fairly inexpensive but i wont be buying them again -
post #265 of 1109
This just got here:

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My my, the grey techflex looks great! Also bought some in sata size.
post #266 of 1109
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Originally Posted by remotehugger View Post

@Furion - i wanted to ask why you went with 18awg wires instead of 16awg ?

Easy answer: it was an extremely hard task to find 16AWG wire with the same or lower outer diameter than the original wire. The insulation needed to be white, so the range of available wires got smaller and smaller. There were lots of white electrical wires (18AWG) which had a bigger outer diameter than the original ones. Then I found the ones I eventually bought with an outer diameter of 2.03mm. The smaller size made it easier to sleeve without any heatshrink, because you've got more room in the holes of the connector.
post #267 of 1109
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Originally Posted by mandrix View Post

Likely someone has brought this up before but: I'm getting ready to make a new cable set and sleeve it, and so I ordered some Seasonic connectors from modDIY. They include pins with these, and after looking at them I'm just going to throw them away. The rear wings that clamp on the wire insulation are really short, I'd be afraid to use them.


I don't know about finding good pins, but how about ordering up an extra set of cables for your psu, from Antron Electronics ? My x-850's set cost $30. Granted, I didn't do the sleeving, and I have no idea about the pinning .... but you get the original connectors for the psu side. Or am I being really dumb here ? I guess you'd be doing the same process with a replacement set as your original set - pulling cables and pins..
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post #268 of 1109
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I don't know about finding good pins, but how about ordering up an extra set of cables for your psu, from Antron Electronics ? My x-850's set cost $30. Granted, I didn't do the sleeving, and I have no idea about the pinning .... but you get the original connectors for the psu side. Or am I being really dumb here ? I guess you'd be doing the same process with a replacement set as your original set - pulling cables and pins..
I already have a perfectly good 24 pin -well, two actually for the Seasonic, and one actually came from Antron Electronics.
But I'm going to resleeve -that is actually make new wiring set and sleeve it- in black and white. For that I have 18 gauge white and black wire, and a bunch of pre-crimped pins and sleeve sitting at the ready for me to get started.
The white and black wire will ensure that the wire will not show through the sleeving. Ever seen an orange or red wire behind light colored sleeve? lol it ain't pretty.
....and the final and main reason for doing all this is because I'm not happy with the blue and black color combo I used to sleeve the first time, although the sleeve job itself is decent IMO.

Did that answer your question? smile.gif
post #269 of 1109
Sure, I thought that you were asking, in an indirect way, about pins. But I backtracked your posts and saw that you were already up to speed. My bad. Nice, that you can take on such a job that I paid to have done, - oh!! my wallet tongue.gif - but I'm happy with what I have.
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post #270 of 1109
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Easy answer: it was an extremely hard task to find 16AWG wire with the same or lower outer diameter than the original wire. The insulation needed to be white, so the range of available wires got smaller and smaller. There were lots of white electrical wires (18AWG) which had a bigger outer diameter than the original ones. Then I found the ones I eventually bought with an outer diameter of 2.03mm. The smaller size made it easier to sleeve without any heatshrink, because you've got more room in the holes of the connector.

makes perfect sense ! i ended up using all the same wires from my 24 pin cable but did have a hell of a time crimping the new pins on - i did find the molex part number for their male and female pins-a little pricey but definitely the route i will go next time -
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