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I have this one from skygeek it did an OK job for molex type (4pin). However it does not work well for 24ATX,PCIe, or MB 8 pin which are all the same. it does crimp the actual wire but when it comes to the insulation crimp it just destroys it. The one shown above my post is better for the small mini jr pins

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Edited by aqualad - 7/8/12 at 5:03pm
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post #82 of 1090
Well I can say that the MDPC-X tool is a precision tool providing extremely precise crimps time after time all to the the same standard. To some extent the other ratcheting tools like the 225D and SN-28 are also precision tools but not providing the same secure crimp that the MDPC-Tool does.

I don't really want you to waste your money and I do doubt that the one you're thinking of getting will crimp ATX pins very well if at all.
Edited by Big Elf - 7/8/12 at 5:08pm
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post #83 of 1090
Never used the cheaper crimpers. I went right for the MDPC-X one. I have to say, it is a quality tool well worth the money. It provides nice, clean, secure and proper crimps.
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post #84 of 1090
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I'll be curious to see if that one works OK. The more expensive tool is due to it being a ratcheting crimper which crimps both the wire and insulation crimp in one go to the same pressure every time. The Molex Hand Tool 63811-1000 is also a 2 stage, non-ratcheting crimper that works well but just takes a bit of practice and a bit longer to learn to use. It's still pricey compared to the one you linked to though.
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I use one of these but to make a crimp, you need to crimp the right metal "blade" then the left one and repeat for the insulation and wire parts. Basically, it's 4 crimps/pin and it doesn't do such a great job to be honest...

Edit: Actually it looks a bit different... Maybe it's not the same but I wouldn't recommend the one I use to anyone buying a new crimping tool.
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post #85 of 1090
With the Molex 63811-1000 tool and genuine molex pins you only need to do 2 crimps, 1 on the wire and 1 on the insulation. They're robust crimps but take a bit longer to do. If anyone does get one I've found the following crimps sizes work best:

Molex Fan & Harwin Motherboard/USB pins - Wire crimp 1.6mm, Insulation crimp 1.8mm
Molex ATX Female & Male Pins - Wire crimp 2.0, Insulation crimp 2.8mm
Modsmart Molex Type pin for hard disk/auxiliary connectors - Wire Crimp 2.3mm, Insulation Crimp 2.8mm (you need to slightly bend the rear wings in manually first). I haven't yet mastered crimping dual wires.
Phobya Molex Type pin for hard disk/auxiliary connectors - For some reason I can't do a consistent crimp with these pins.
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eh, I might just hold my tongue when I click the buy button for the MDPC-X crimper.
Does it do 16 gauge wire? I have a feeling it's 18-30 just like the generic ones...
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Originally Posted by Big Elf View Post

With the Molex 63811-1000 tool and genuine molex pins you only need to do 2 crimps, 1 on the wire and 1 on the insulation. They're robust crimps but take a bit longer to do. If anyone does get one I've found the following crimps sizes work best:

Molex Fan & Harwin Motherboard/USB pins - Wire crimp 1.6mm, Insulation crimp 1.8mm
Molex ATX Female & Male Pins - Wire crimp 2.0, Insulation crimp 2.8mm
Modsmart Molex Type pin for hard disk/auxiliary connectors - Wire Crimp 2.3mm, Insulation Crimp 2.8mm (you need to slightly bend the rear wings in manually first). I haven't yet mastered crimping dual wires.
Phobya Molex Type pin for hard disk/auxiliary connectors - For some reason I can't do a consistent crimp with these pins.

Can you explain in detail how you measured the crimp heights? Also, Molex has reference crimp heights in their Application Tooling Specification Sheets (ex: http://www.molex.com/pdm_docs/ats/ATS-638190900.pdf).

 

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I'll be curious to see if that one works OK. The more expensive tool is due to it being a ratcheting crimper which crimps both the wire and insulation crimp in one go to the same pressure every time. The Molex Hand Tool 63811-1000 is also a 2 stage, non-ratcheting crimper that works well but just takes a bit of practice and a bit longer to learn to use. It's still pricey compared to the one you linked to though.

Eh, to me, a crimper is a crimper. I have no idea how companies can charge $100> for a rather simple hand tool.. its blasphemy. You put the wire in, you close the tool, the metal clips go into the top half of the crimp tool, coil around the top, and dig into the insulation of the wire.
I think I'll take a gamble and get that $17 crimper.

I can get the crimper you linked for $38 USD, but at that point I think I would rather dish out an extra $20, get a MDPC-X crimper, and have a clear mind.

And a computer is a computer to someone who doesn't know any better. But those who are knowledgeable in the area know there is a difference, and it may matter enough to them that they pay significantly more. E.g. choosing a 3930K over a 2500K for rendering videos since you value your time.

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eh, I might just hold my tongue when I click the buy button for the MDPC-X crimper.
Does it do 16 gauge wire? I have a feeling it's 18-30 just like the generic ones...

It does 18-22AWG + 24-30AWG. Source. You can check with Nils if you like.


Edited by nawon72 - 7/8/12 at 11:57pm
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Can you explain in detail how you measured the crimp heights? Also, Molex has reference crimp heights in their Application Tooling Specification Sheets (ex: http://www.molex.com/pdm_docs/ats/ATS-638190900.pdf).

I don't measure the crimp heights. If it matches the crimp produced by the MDPC tool (for Molex ATX and fan pins) visually and the pin doesn't pull off with a hard pull I'm happy.
Edited by Big Elf - 7/9/12 at 12:25am
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Can you explain in detail how you measured the crimp heights? Also, Molex has reference crimp heights in their Application Tooling Specification Sheets (ex: http://www.molex.com/pdm_docs/ats/ATS-638190900.pdf).

I don't measure the crimp heights. If it matches the crimp produced by the MDPC tool (for Molex ATX and fan pins) visually and the pin doesn't pull off with a hard pull I'm happy.

I thought you had measured them since you posted this:

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Molex Fan & Harwin Motherboard/USB pins - Wire crimp 1.6mm, Insulation crimp 1.8mm
Molex ATX Female & Male Pins - Wire crimp 2.0, Insulation crimp 2.8mm
Modsmart Molex Type pin for hard disk/auxiliary connectors - Wire Crimp 2.3mm, Insulation Crimp 2.8mm (you need to slightly bend the rear wings in manually first). I haven't yet mastered crimping dual wires.
Phobya Molex Type pin for hard disk/auxiliary connectors - For some reason I can't do a consistent crimp with these pins.

Where did you get those measurements from?

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Ah, I see what you mean. Those are the measurements on the tool.
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