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post #91 of 1109
I so wish I had bought a better crimper. I have one I bought from FTW PC, it's alright if you fiddle with it a while but not ideal. The crimpers that don't have the little "u" shape that catches the wings and folds them back in to bite into the insulation just don't do a great job. Plus sometimes the pin will get a bend ----_____ and look like that instead of being perfectly straight.
Is there not anything that can be bought for a reasonable price in the US that does not a good, but great job? I've spent so much on w/c fittings on my new build the book keeper is giving me the stinkeye. lol.
...especially since I told her a week ago I was through ordering parts. But I really want a good crimper, dang it.
post #92 of 1109
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Originally Posted by Big Elf View Post

Ah, I see what you mean. Those are the measurements on the tool.

But how do you know which conductor and insulation crimp to use with the pins you mentioned? I couldn't figure out what the measurements on the tool are referring to. redface.gif

 

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Originally Posted by mandrix View Post

I so wish I had bought a better crimper. I have one I bought from FTW PC, it's alright if you fiddle with it a while but not ideal. The crimpers that don't have the little "u" shape that catches the wings and folds them back in to bite into the insulation just don't do a great job. Plus sometimes the pin will get a bend ----_____ and look like that instead of being perfectly straight.
Is there not anything that can be bought for a reasonable price in the US that does not a good, but great job? I've spent so much on w/c fittings on my new build the book keeper is giving me the stinkeye. lol.
...especially since I told her a week ago I was through ordering parts. But I really want a good crimper, dang it.

It doesn't look like a "u" shape at all (to me). I would say it's "m", and it performs a "B" crimp. See this link: http://www.schleuniger-na.com/DesktopDefault.aspx/tabid-64/129_read-11671/

 

This should work the best for the money (click to see it in action), and the price recently dropped from $38 to $30 (without shipping). If someone on OCN doesn't buy and review it soon then I should have it done within a month. The price is irresistible to me at this point, since the MDPC crimper is about $72 (shipped, IIRC).


Edited by nawon72 - 7/9/12 at 1:42pm
post #93 of 1109
Neither could I so I worked through each one until I found the ones that did the best and most robust crimp. Some are pretty obviously wrong as they either crush the sides of the pin, don't roll over the wings or flatten out the wings when crimped. I did find that if you use non-molex pins then you sometimes have to use different crimp notches and even then with some of them I couldn't get a good crimp.

It also took me a while to work out what the best pressure was for each of the wire and insulation crimps.
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post #94 of 1109
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Neither could I so I worked through each one until I found the ones that did the best and most robust crimp. Some are pretty obviously wrong as they either crush the sides of the pin, don't roll over the wings or flatten out the wings when crimped. I did find that if you use non-molex pins then you sometimes have to use different crimp notches and even then with some of them I couldn't get a good crimp.

It also took me a while to work out what the best pressure was for each of the wire and insulation crimps.

When I read this and one of your previous posts, I get the impression that you have the 63811-1000. Otherwise how would you have "worked through each [anvil and punch]" to "[find] the ones that [do] the best and most robust crimp".

 

Please state whether or not you have the 63811-1000, and let us know what tool you're using to to find the right crimp height. Otherwise I'm going to be very confusedsmiley.png

post #95 of 1109
I thought I'd mentioned it in an earlier post. It's the Molex 63811-1000 and I'm using a visual comparison with a crimp from the MDPC-X tool and a pull test.
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post #96 of 1109
Ah, OK! $30 is much better. I imagine it would take some practice as BE says to get the crimp right. Crap, I just ordered the molex extractor and some housings from Newark, might could have slipped in the crimper. I'll check it out at some point, though.
post #97 of 1109
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Crap, I just ordered the molex extractor and some housings from Newark, could have slipped in the crimper. I'll check it out at some point, though.

That's why I'm waiting until I have everything I may need in a list so I can avoid paying more for shipping. Measure 3 times, cut once, like Lutro0 tongue.gif

 

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I thought I'd mentioned it in an earlier post. It's the Molex 63811-1000 and I'm using a visual comparison with a crimp from the MDPC-X tool and a pull test.

Sorry if I'm starting to annoy you now, but could you say "Yes, I have the 63811-1000" or "No, I don't have the 63811-1000". And I don't know how you could be doing a visual comparison, unless you had the 63811-1000. confused.gif

 

Maybe I'm not thinking clearly since It's the day after getting up at 5am, 1h plane, 4h airport, 6h plane, 2h airport, 5h plane, 9h time zone change (backwards), sleep late (2am?, was online since I didn't have much internet for 3w), wake up, sleep, wake up...


Edited by nawon72 - 7/9/12 at 4:06pm
post #98 of 1109
I take it BE does have that crimper. Just PM him if he doesn't post back.
post #99 of 1109
I thought it was clear but perhaps not, I do have the 63811-1000.

A word of warning though. The MDPC-X tool is pretty much 'fire and forget', you put the pin in and then the wire, squeeze it until it releases and you end up with a perfect crimp. The 63811-1000 relies on you getting the pressure right every time. It can happen that you have what looks like a good crimp but it fails the pull test meaning you need to carefully check every crimp you do.

I use the 63811-1000 for fan and motherboard pins as, due to failing eyesight, I find it easier to see whether the wire is correctly located in the tool compared to the ratcheting crimpers.
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I think I would throw the non ratcheting hand crimper out the window if I had to use it. tongue.gif
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