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post #911 of 1094
Hello

The sense wire circuit monitors the actual available supply voltage available at the motherboard so that voltage corrections can be made because of circuit resistance.

18 gauge stranded wire nominally has a resistance of 6.5227 Ohms per 1000 feet or 0.0065 Ohms per foot. A wire used in an 18 inch 24 pin connector would have a resistance of 0.0097 Ohms. Molex specs the Mini-Fit connector to have a maximum initial mating resistance of 0.010 Ohms. This works out to be a total of 0.02975 Ohms (0.0097+0.010+0.010) for a modular power supply with an 18 inch lead.

Voltage drop can be found by the equation V=IR where V is voltage, I is current and R is resistance. Using the 3.3V rail, as all power supplies have a sense wire for this rail, and the power supply configued as above a 1.5 amp load will result in a voltage drop of 0.045V (3.255V at the motherboard). If the load is increased to 4 amps the voltage drop will be 0.12V (3.18V at the motherboard). As this voltage drop is the result of circuit resistance only the 3.3V rail regulation circuit will still see a full 3.3V inside the power supply without the sense circuit.
post #912 of 1094
The connectors present in a modular PSU but not in a non-modular PSU are these:



I should think these have a considerably greater resistance than a MiniFit, just as resistance in the 22awg wire must differ from the 18awg. I think I am suggesting that the scale of resistance which these Pcb mounts have in ratio to the difference between 22awg and 18awg must have a considerable dissipating effect on whatever is being measured - especially in the angled variety with two different pin lengths..
Edited by Himo5 - 1/10/15 at 6:40pm
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The connectors present in a modular PSU but not in a non-modular PSU are these:



I should think these have a considerably greater resistance than a MiniFit, just as resistance in the 22awg wire must differ from the 18awg. I think I am suggesting that the scale of resistance which these Pcb mounts have in ratio to the difference between 22awg and 18awg must have a considerable dissipating effect on whatever is being measured.

Hello

PCB mounted headers should still be Mini-Fit or equivalent connectors as per spec by Intel. The resistance at the soldered connection is non-existent in the context of the sense circuit design. Just as using 22 AWG wire for the sense circuit. The circuit is designed with all point-to-point resistance accounted for. 22 AWG is used for the sense circuit as there is no load on the circuit. Intel has specified a maximum of 10mA loading for the circuit.
post #914 of 1094
Ah, good! Thanks for clearing that up for me. +1 rep.
post #915 of 1094
Thread Starter 
Section updated to add new makers. Also a ton of links have been fixed and updated with more needing to be updated in the morning!

What Different Kinds Of Sleeveing Is There & Whats Worth Buying?
- What is all out there and what is the best? Click to Expand (Click to show)

This question is asked all the time, but it is a very subjective one. The reason for that being that everyone has a personal choice. So while I cant say which ones is the best I will say which ones is the most popular, and we will start with that one right off the bat.

Lutro0 Customs Teleios Sleeving - www.MainFrameCustom.com - LC Teleios Sleeving is the product of tons of research into every single kind of sleeve that is available. It takes the very best attributes of those sleeves and puts it all into a 4mm and 8mm sata sized sleeve. LC Teleios is a newcomer into the sleeving world, however every single review that it has gotten has the reviewer ranking it above all of the rest.

It was made to be easy to use, uses vibrant colors that match your motherboard components, is woven in such a way to bring the densest and softest feeling sleeve out there, and it can cover almost any color of wire.

Newcomers to the sleeving scene that have used Teleios have produced awesome works of sleeve art without ever having sleeved before as the Teleios sleeve is made to be easily used in both heatshrinkless style and heatshrink style.

The color choices for Teleios are currently 11 vibrant solid colors and 2 unique mixed colors called the Fusion Line.

The sata sizes come in 11 vibrant colors and is made to have a very snug fit on any Sata Data cable. Its size of 8mm makes it a little more difficult to get onto the Sata Data cables, however once its on it covers almost all colors of cables and it grips tight to the cable to give you an unbelievably clean look.

Teleios can be found in the USA at www.MainFrameCustom.com and the UK at E22.Biz. Please note, however both sleeve shops sell worldwide with cheaper pricing then most shops out there. Both shops also sell basically everything you could ever need for your sleeving job with the best prices out there right now.

LLutro0 Customs Coreless Paracord - www.MainFrameCustom.com - Lutro0 Customs has also designed a perfectly weaved paracord that does not have the inner core. What this means is that LC was able to design and purchase a flawless paracord that has the same standards through all of the colors and is easy to sleeve with. LC also sells a paracord threader that most people say is absolutely needed to use paracord as it allows you to place the paracord on the wire perfectly without any fraying.

MDPC – MDPC Sleeve and products has been considered the quality choice in the sleeving industry and as such they have lived up to that name over and over. The owner Nils stops at nothing to hold his products to the highest standard and will never relent in upholding that standard.

The sleeving itself is the perfect size for single sleeving and has an awesome coverage of the wire, however if you are doing white sleeving you will need to prep your cables which will be covered later on in the FAQ.

The color choices are right on par with what you would want in your system. Also the Heat Shrink color choices are one of a kind and will outdo anything out there at this time.

Please remember that the only flaw with MDPC is that to get great coverage you need to stretch it VERY tight and most sleevers that start out find this to be difficult.

But I will stop blabbing and let you look for yourself, You can check out MDPC on their website located here: http://www.mdpc-x.com/

PARACORD - Paracord sleeve is a very popular sleeving choice for those that are on a budget, however that does come at a price. Sleeving with paracord is just like sleeving with shoelaces and the material is nylon, and feels a bit like rope. Now if it is stretched right it will not feel floppy and work just fine, but you will have to take some extra time with it to make sure you get a good result.

The color choices of paracord are super abundant and you can find any color you want in at least a few shades.

Paracord comes in a few different sizes but the most popular sizes for sleeving will be 450lb paracord and 550lb paracord – the difference between the two is some extra strands in the middle of it (the core) and the 550lb being very slightly bigger. Both will work just fine for sleeving.

For finding paracord you simply need to do a search for “450 Paracord” or “550 Paracord”

Please caution that alot of paracord out there is cheaply made and looks like crud, so make sure to buy from a well known distributor.

It can also be found in an coreless style, but only one shop sells it. Here is the link:
http://mainframecustom.com/product-category/cable-sleeving/lc-coreless-paracord/

CEANCUT (techflex cleancut) – Techflex CleanCut sleeving has become a popular choice for sleeving because of its full coverage and its super cheap price from an E-Bay distributor, FurryLetters.

The main downfall of CleanCut is that it only comes in 2 colors, black and gray. The sleeving itself is a plastic type and is very flexible and works perfect for single sleeving.

Prices vary from seller to seller but like stated earlier most buy it from FurryLetters on E-Bay, The main link to his shop can be found here: http://stores.ebay.com/FURRYLETTERS

Mod/Smart Kobra HD (Primochill) – Kobra HD is marketed as a high density plastic sleeving in different sizes, and to those terms it is exactly that. However the size used for single sleeving (1/8th) is just a bit too small and gets caught on the molex pins of a wire, which means you have to use tape or an tool to get it on the wire without it snagging on it. Another thing to be aware is the high cost, some places go up to .60 a foot. Kobra is indeed a decent alternative if you have alot of time and patience on your hands, but be aware that the coverage gets spotty on larger wires and your sleeving experience will be slow due to the material.

You can buy Kobra HD sleeving at both Frozencpu.com and Performance-pcs.com

Mod/Smart Maxcord Paracord (Primochill) - http://www.frozencpu.com/cat/l2/g35/c641/list/p1/SleevingHeatshrink-ModSmart_-_MaxCord_Paracord.html - Maxcord is a new weaves paracord with all the same properties as all paracord but with an interesting weave and it comes in 3/32in and 1/8in. If you like paracord I would give this one I chance.

You can buy Maxcord sleeving at Frozencpu.com

Techflex Flexo PET - http://www.techflex.com - Flexo comes in almost as many colors as paracord but this sleeving is mainly used in industrial environments to bundle large bundles of sleeve and has a terrible coverage so its best not used for sleeving - however its a cheap choice and was one of the first sleeves to be used to sleeve with.

You can buy Flexo sleeving at Frozencpu.com

Bitspower - The Bitspower sleeving is still under review, but the initial use with it shows allot of the same flaws as Kobra HD when it comes to size, but the coverage of Bitspower sleeving is super dense which is the highlight of the sleeve. However, its size makes it hard to sleeve with and the over denseness of the sleeve makes the sleeve not stretch very much. This is important in a sleeve as you want it to conform to the wire. However, even with these downfalls its a viable sleeving material just not the first I would grab for.

Bitspower also makes a heatshrink tubing which has a nice thin wall, however the shrink has a low melting point which disappointingly leaves it kinda useless as you always want to melt the sleeve underneath a little and the shrink is very prone to melt and deform before the sleeve will melt before.

You can purchase Bitspower Sleeving at major online shops including Performance-pcs.com

Sleeve-Modding.com - SM sells a sleeve that is just like MDPC but in different colors, the diameter is a but smaller but the quality is just the same, so I will not explain that more. The owner is also a great guy and does his best to provide top notch products. I have personally done a video review one his store that you can view here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4xr3IUJIkuc

They also sell heatshrink but right now the heatshrink is sub par and they are in the process of getting new stock.

Darkside Sleeving - http://www.dazmode.com/ is our Canadian modding shop to the north. The owner is a great person and does his best to strive to innovation and best products he can. his sleeve comes in many different colors and unique styles - he also offered a heatshrink that while its not the best will get most jobs done easily.

MainFrame Customs - http://mainframecustom.com/ - LC provides at this moment the best paracord on the market including a never before sold "coreless" kind that makes sleeving easy with paracord. What sets apart this paracord from others and I dont say this just because its my shop is that I have literally tried every reseller of paracord out there and there is always problems like fuzzyness or snags, LC paracord is perfect and tightly woven and comes in many many colors both in 550 and coreless. Save yourself the frustration from buying bargain Paracord that looks like its been drug through a parking lot and get the good stuff right away. http://mainframecustom.com/ also carries everything you need for your sleeving job at great prices!

PC Modz Depot - http://pcmzd.com/pcmzd-cable-sleeving/pcmzd-cable-sleeving.html - PCMZD is a great sleeve, everything about it is nice minus the coloring - the colors are an see through on some of them and just dont match some systems. Dont take my word for it give them a try the owner is an awesome fellow is ready to help out anyone he can. They also carry heatshrink but I have not at this time had a chance to try it.

ShakMods - http://shakmods.com/ - ShakMods sleeving is just like PCMZD in some different colors, the weave is the same and the same issues are with it. However Shak provides different heatshrink that is medium level heat shrink and will work for for your project. Also Shakmods has come out with a line of matte sleeving that is unique in the fact that the colors are slightly faded to give a eggshell finish. Many people are undecided on if they like the look or not as most people choose to have vibrant colors instead.

Some quick mentions for sleeve that I have not fully tested are as follows:

Big City Sleeving - https://www.facebook.com/groups/299207060157345/ - BCS is Otis Fats I have not gotten my hands on any so I have not done a review yet but its worth looking into.

FTW Sleeve Rignoobies Brand - http://www.tipidpc.com/viewitem.php?iid=20995037 - This sleeve is made by the popular Rig Noobies and is an up and coming company. Give them a chance you might be surprised.

Gosu Modz - http://www.gosumodz.com/ - This is a new company overseas and they have come out with a sleeve series called their PHALANX SLEEVES. I have not had the chance to use their sleeve yet but I have some on the way to do a review on it. It comes in many colors and looks to be promising!

ModDiy - http://www.moddiy.com/ - ModDiy has been around for a while and are a great shop for just about anything sleeving and more. They carry a line called Deluxe High Density Weave and it comes in vaired sizes from 2mm to 16mm. They also carry the super hard to find connectors that honestly cannot be found anywhere else - however they know it and charge allot for them all the way up to over 2 dollars and the shipping is high at times. But they are a great shop for all your needs.

CableMod - http://www.CableMod.com - CableMod is a supplier of OEM Cable sets for allot of different power supplies - at this point they dont sell sleeving by itself but they use a paracord like fabric that seems to work well. I have heard mixed results from the people who buy them but I have not had the chance to review one but I have one on its way so I will update this. Right now they are indeed the cheapest place to buy OEM sets in multiple colors for your psus so it wont be too bad to give them a try.

ModGuru - http://modguru.net/ - ModGuru currently sells Shakmods sleeving so this stores sleeve is the quality as Shakmods.

Other Sleevings – There is a few other types of sleeving out there at this moment, but I have not added the due to their popularity not being very high and the price or quality being too high or too low. I will be adding the other types as I find some time.

Edited by Lutro0 - 1/27/15 at 10:33am
post #916 of 1094
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Section updated to add new makers. Also a ton of links have been fixed and updated!

What Different Kinds Of Sleeveing Is There & Whats Worth Buying?
- What is all out there and what is the best? Click to Expand (Click to show)

This question is asked all the time, but it is a very subjective one. The reason for that being that everyone has a personal choice. So while I cant say which ones is the best I will say which ones is the most popular, and we will start with that one right off the bat.

Lutro0 Customs Teleios Sleeving - www.MainFrameCustom.com - LC Teleios Sleeving is the product of tons of research into every single kind of sleeve that is available. It takes the very best attributes of those sleeves and puts it all into a 4mm and 8mm sata sized sleeve. LC Teleios is a newcomer into the sleeving world, however every single review that it has gotten has the reviewer ranking it above all of the rest.

It was made to be easy to use, uses vibrant colors that match your motherboard components, is woven in such a way to bring the densest and softest feeling sleeve out there, and it can cover almost any color of wire.

Newcomers to the sleeving scene that have used Teleios have produced awesome works of sleeve art without ever having sleeved before as the Teleios sleeve is made to be easily used in both heatshrinkless style and heatshrink style.

The color choices for Teleios are currently 11 vibrant solid colors and 2 unique mixed colors called the Fusion Line.

The sata sizes come in 11 vibrant colors and is made to have a very snug fit on any Sata Data cable. Its size of 8mm makes it a little more difficult to get onto the Sata Data cables, however once its on it covers almost all colors of cables and it grips tight to the cable to give you an unbelievably clean look.

Teleios can be found in the USA at www.MainFrameCustom.com and the UK at E22.Biz. Please note, however both sleeve shops sell worldwide with cheaper pricing then most shops out there. Both shops also sell basically everything you could ever need for your sleeving job with the best prices out there right now.

LLutro0 Customs Coreless Paracord - www.MainFrameCustom.com - Lutro0 Customs has also designed a perfectly weaved paracord that does not have the inner core. What this means is that LC was able to design and purchase a flawless paracord that has the same standards through all of the colors and is easy to sleeve with. LC also sells a paracord threader that most people say is absolutely needed to use paracord as it allows you to place the paracord on the wire perfectly without any fraying.

MDPC – MDPC Sleeve and products has been considered the quality choice in the sleeving industry and as such they have lived up to that name over and over. The owner Nils stops at nothing to hold his products to the highest standard and will never relent in upholding that standard.

The sleeving itself is the perfect size for single sleeving and has an awesome coverage of the wire, however if you are doing white sleeving you will need to prep your cables which will be covered later on in the FAQ.

The color choices are right on par with what you would want in your system. Also the Heat Shrink color choices are one of a kind and will outdo anything out there at this time.

Please remember that the only flaw with MDPC is that to get great coverage you need to stretch it VERY tight and most sleevers that start out find this to be difficult.

But I will stop blabbing and let you look for yourself, You can check out MDPC on their website located here: http://www.mdpc-x.com/

PARACORD - Paracord sleeve is a very popular sleeving choice for those that are on a budget, however that does come at a price. Sleeving with paracord is just like sleeving with shoelaces and the material is nylon, and feels a bit like rope. Now if it is stretched right it will not feel floppy and work just fine, but you will have to take some extra time with it to make sure you get a good result.

The color choices of paracord are super abundant and you can find any color you want in at least a few shades.

Paracord comes in a few different sizes but the most popular sizes for sleeving will be 450lb paracord and 550lb paracord – the difference between the two is some extra strands in the middle of it (the core) and the 550lb being very slightly bigger. Both will work just fine for sleeving.

For finding paracord you simply need to do a search for “450 Paracord” or “550 Paracord”

Please caution that alot of paracord out there is cheaply made and looks like crud, so make sure to buy from a well known distributor.

It can also be found in an coreless style, but only one shop sells it. Here is the link:
http://mainframecustom.com/product-category/cable-sleeving/lc-coreless-paracord/

CEANCUT (techflex cleancut) – Techflex CleanCut sleeving has become a popular choice for sleeving because of its full coverage and its super cheap price from an E-Bay distributor, FurryLetters.

The main downfall of CleanCut is that it only comes in 2 colors, black and gray. The sleeving itself is a plastic type and is very flexible and works perfect for single sleeving.

Prices vary from seller to seller but like stated earlier most buy it from FurryLetters on E-Bay, The main link to his shop can be found here: http://stores.ebay.com/FURRYLETTERS

Mod/Smart Kobra HD (Primochill) – Kobra HD is marketed as a high density plastic sleeving in different sizes, and to those terms it is exactly that. However the size used for single sleeving (1/8th) is just a bit too small and gets caught on the molex pins of a wire, which means you have to use tape or an tool to get it on the wire without it snagging on it. Another thing to be aware is the high cost, some places go up to .60 a foot. Kobra is indeed a decent alternative if you have alot of time and patience on your hands, but be aware that the coverage gets spotty on larger wires and your sleeving experience will be slow due to the material.

You can buy Kobra HD sleeving at both Frozencpu.com and Performance-pcs.com

Mod/Smart Maxcord Paracord (Primochill) - http://www.frozencpu.com/cat/l2/g35/c641/list/p1/SleevingHeatshrink-ModSmart_-_MaxCord_Paracord.html - Maxcord is a new weaves paracord with all the same properties as all paracord but with an interesting weave and it comes in 3/32in and 1/8in. If you like paracord I would give this one I chance.

You can buy Maxcord sleeving at Frozencpu.com

Techflex Flexo PET - http://www.techflex.com - Flexo comes in almost as many colors as paracord but this sleeving is mainly used in industrial environments to bundle large bundles of sleeve and has a terrible coverage so its best not used for sleeving - however its a cheap choice and was one of the first sleeves to be used to sleeve with.

You can buy Flexo sleeving at Frozencpu.com

Bitspower - The Bitspower sleeving is still under review, but the initial use with it shows allot of the same flaws as Kobra HD when it comes to size, but the coverage of Bitspower sleeving is super dense which is the highlight of the sleeve. However, its size makes it hard to sleeve with and the over denseness of the sleeve makes the sleeve not stretch very much. This is important in a sleeve as you want it to conform to the wire. However, even with these downfalls its a viable sleeving material just not the first I would grab for.

Bitspower also makes a heatshrink tubing which has a nice thin wall, however the shrink has a low melting point which disappointingly leaves it kinda useless as you always want to melt the sleeve underneath a little and the shrink is very prone to melt and deform before the sleeve will melt before.

You can purchase Bitspower Sleeving at major online shops including Performance-pcs.com

Sleeve-Modding.com - SM sells a sleeve that is just like MDPC but in different colors, the diameter is a but smaller but the quality is just the same, so I will not explain that more. The owner is also a great guy and does his best to provide top notch products. I have personally done a video review one his store that you can view here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4xr3IUJIkuc

They also sell heatshrink but right now the heatshrink is sub par and they are in the process of getting new stock.

Darkside Sleeving - http://www.dazmode.com/ is our Canadian modding shop to the north. The owner is a great person and does his best to strive to innovation and best products he can. his sleeve comes in many different colors and unique styles - he also offered a heatshrink that while its not the best will get most jobs done easily.

MainFrame Customs - http://mainframecustom.com/ - LC provides at this moment the best paracord on the market including a never before sold "coreless" kind that makes sleeving easy with paracord. What sets apart this paracord from others and I dont say this just because its my shop is that I have literally tried every reseller of paracord out there and there is always problems like fuzzyness or snags, LC paracord is perfect and tightly woven and comes in many many colors both in 550 and coreless. Save yourself the frustration from buying bargain Paracord that looks like its been drug through a parking lot and get the good stuff right away. http://mainframecustom.com/ also carries everything you need for your sleeving job at great prices!

PC Modz Depot - http://pcmzd.com/pcmzd-cable-sleeving/pcmzd-cable-sleeving.html - PCMZD is a great sleeve, everything about it is nice minus the coloring - the colors are an see through on some of them and just dont match some systems. Dont take my word for it give them a try the owner is an awesome fellow is ready to help out anyone he can. They also carry heatshrink but I have not at this time had a chance to try it.

ShakMods - http://shakmods.com/ - ShakMods sleeving is just like PCMZD in some different colors, the weave is the same and the same issues are with it. However Shak provides different heatshrink that is medium level heat shrink and will work for for your project. Also Shakmods has come out with a line of matte sleeving that is unique in the fact that the colors are slightly faded to give a eggshell finish. Many people are undecided on if they like the look or not as most people choose to have vibrant colors instead.

Some quick mentions for sleeve that I have not fully tested are as follows:

Big City Sleeving - https://www.facebook.com/groups/299207060157345/ - BCS is Otis Fats I have not gotten my hands on any so I have not done a review yet but its worth looking into.

FTW Sleeve Rignoobies Brand - http://www.tipidpc.com/viewitem.php?iid=20995037 - This sleeve is made by the popular Rig Noobies and is an up and coming company. Give them a chance you might be surprised.

Gosu Modz - http://www.gosumodz.com/ - This is a new company overseas and they have come out with a sleeve series called their PHALANX SLEEVES. I have not had the chance to use their sleeve yet but I have some on the way to do a review on it. It comes in many colors and looks to be promising!

ModDiy - http://www.moddiy.com/ - ModDiy has been around for a while and are a great shop for just about anything sleeving and more. They carry a line called Deluxe High Density Weave and it comes in vaired sizes from 2mm to 16mm. They also carry the super hard to find connectors that honestly cannot be found anywhere else - however they know it and charge allot for them all the way up to over 2 dollars and the shipping is high at times. But they are a great shop for all your needs.

CableMod - http://www.CableMod.com - CableMod is a supplier of OEM Cable sets for allot of different power supplies - at this point they dont sell sleeving by itself but they use a paracord like fabric that seems to work well. I have heard mixed results from the people who buy them but I have not had the chance to review one but I have one on its way so I will update this. Right now they are indeed the cheapest place to buy OEM sets in multiple colors for your psus so it wont be too bad to give them a try.

ModGuru - http://modguru.net/ - ModGuru currently sells Shakmods sleeving so this stores sleeve is the quality as Shakmods.

Other Sleevings – There is a few other types of sleeving out there at this moment, but I have not added the due to their popularity not being very high and the price or quality being too high or too low. I will be adding the other types as I find some time.


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What Different Kinds Of Sleeveing Is There & Whats Worth Buying?
- What is all out there and what is the best? Click to Expand (Click to show)

This question is asked all the time, but it is a very subjective one. The reason for that being that everyone has a personal choice. So while I cant say which ones is the best I will say which ones is the most popular, and we will start with that one right off the bat.

Lutro0 Customs Teleios Sleeving - www.MainFrameCustom.com - LC Teleios Sleeving is the product of tons of research into every single kind of sleeve that is available. It takes the very best attributes of those sleeves and puts it all into a 4mm and 8mm sata sized sleeve. LC Teleios is a newcomer into the sleeving world, however every single review that it has gotten has the reviewer ranking it above all of the rest.

It was made to be easy to use, uses vibrant colors that match your motherboard components, is woven in such a way to bring the densest and softest feeling sleeve out there, and it can cover almost any color of wire.

Newcomers to the sleeving scene that have used Teleios have produced awesome works of sleeve art without ever having sleeved before as the Teleios sleeve is made to be easily used in both heatshrinkless style and heatshrink style.

The color choices for Teleios are currently 11 vibrant solid colors and 2 unique mixed colors called the Fusion Line.

The sata sizes come in 11 vibrant colors and is made to have a very snug fit on any Sata Data cable. Its size of 8mm makes it a little more difficult to get onto the Sata Data cables, however once its on it covers almost all colors of cables and it grips tight to the cable to give you an unbelievably clean look.

Teleios can be found in the USA at www.MainFrameCustom.com and the UK at E22.Biz. Please note, however both sleeve shops sell worldwide with cheaper pricing then most shops out there. Both shops also sell basically everything you could ever need for your sleeving job with the best prices out there right now.

LLutro0 Customs Coreless Paracord - www.MainFrameCustom.com - Lutro0 Customs has also designed a perfectly weaved paracord that does not have the inner core. What this means is that LC was able to design and purchase a flawless paracord that has the same standards through all of the colors and is easy to sleeve with. LC also sells a paracord threader that most people say is absolutely needed to use paracord as it allows you to place the paracord on the wire perfectly without any fraying.

MDPC – MDPC Sleeve and products has been considered the quality choice in the sleeving industry and as such they have lived up to that name over and over. The owner Nils stops at nothing to hold his products to the highest standard and will never relent in upholding that standard.

The sleeving itself is the perfect size for single sleeving and has an awesome coverage of the wire, however if you are doing white sleeving you will need to prep your cables which will be covered later on in the FAQ.

The color choices are right on par with what you would want in your system. Also the Heat Shrink color choices are one of a kind and will outdo anything out there at this time.

Please remember that the only flaw with MDPC is that to get great coverage you need to stretch it VERY tight and most sleevers that start out find this to be difficult.

But I will stop blabbing and let you look for yourself, You can check out MDPC on their website located here: http://www.mdpc-x.com/

PARACORD - Paracord sleeve is a very popular sleeving choice for those that are on a budget, however that does come at a price. Sleeving with paracord is just like sleeving with shoelaces and the material is nylon, and feels a bit like rope. Now if it is stretched right it will not feel floppy and work just fine, but you will have to take some extra time with it to make sure you get a good result.

The color choices of paracord are super abundant and you can find any color you want in at least a few shades.

Paracord comes in a few different sizes but the most popular sizes for sleeving will be 450lb paracord and 550lb paracord – the difference between the two is some extra strands in the middle of it (the core) and the 550lb being very slightly bigger. Both will work just fine for sleeving.

For finding paracord you simply need to do a search for “450 Paracord” or “550 Paracord”

Please caution that alot of paracord out there is cheaply made and looks like crud, so make sure to buy from a well known distributor.

It can also be found in an coreless style, but only one shop sells it. Here is the link:
http://mainframecustom.com/product-category/cable-sleeving/lc-coreless-paracord/

CEANCUT (techflex cleancut) – Techflex CleanCut sleeving has become a popular choice for sleeving because of its full coverage and its super cheap price from an E-Bay distributor, FurryLetters.

The main downfall of CleanCut is that it only comes in 2 colors, black and gray. The sleeving itself is a plastic type and is very flexible and works perfect for single sleeving.

Prices vary from seller to seller but like stated earlier most buy it from FurryLetters on E-Bay, The main link to his shop can be found here: http://stores.ebay.com/FURRYLETTERS

Mod/Smart Kobra HD (Primochill) – Kobra HD is marketed as a high density plastic sleeving in different sizes, and to those terms it is exactly that. However the size used for single sleeving (1/8th) is just a bit too small and gets caught on the molex pins of a wire, which means you have to use tape or an tool to get it on the wire without it snagging on it. Another thing to be aware is the high cost, some places go up to .60 a foot. Kobra is indeed a decent alternative if you have alot of time and patience on your hands, but be aware that the coverage gets spotty on larger wires and your sleeving experience will be slow due to the material.

You can buy Kobra HD sleeving at both Frozencpu.com and Performance-pcs.com

Mod/Smart Maxcord Paracord (Primochill) - http://www.frozencpu.com/cat/l2/g35/c641/list/p1/SleevingHeatshrink-ModSmart_-_MaxCord_Paracord.html - Maxcord is a new weaves paracord with all the same properties as all paracord but with an interesting weave and it comes in 3/32in and 1/8in. If you like paracord I would give this one I chance.

You can buy Maxcord sleeving at Frozencpu.com

Techflex Flexo PET - http://www.techflex.com - Flexo comes in almost as many colors as paracord but this sleeving is mainly used in industrial environments to bundle large bundles of sleeve and has a terrible coverage so its best not used for sleeving - however its a cheap choice and was one of the first sleeves to be used to sleeve with.

You can buy Flexo sleeving at Frozencpu.com

Bitspower - The Bitspower sleeving is still under review, but the initial use with it shows allot of the same flaws as Kobra HD when it comes to size, but the coverage of Bitspower sleeving is super dense which is the highlight of the sleeve. However, its size makes it hard to sleeve with and the over denseness of the sleeve makes the sleeve not stretch very much. This is important in a sleeve as you want it to conform to the wire. However, even with these downfalls its a viable sleeving material just not the first I would grab for.

Bitspower also makes a heatshrink tubing which has a nice thin wall, however the shrink has a low melting point which disappointingly leaves it kinda useless as you always want to melt the sleeve underneath a little and the shrink is very prone to melt and deform before the sleeve will melt before.

You can purchase Bitspower Sleeving at major online shops including Performance-pcs.com

Sleeve-Modding.com - SM sells a sleeve that is just like MDPC but in different colors, the diameter is a but smaller but the quality is just the same, so I will not explain that more. The owner is also a great guy and does his best to provide top notch products. I have personally done a video review one his store that you can view here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4xr3IUJIkuc

They also sell heatshrink but right now the heatshrink is sub par and they are in the process of getting new stock.

Darkside Sleeving - http://www.dazmode.com/ is our Canadian modding shop to the north. The owner is a great person and does his best to strive to innovation and best products he can. his sleeve comes in many different colors and unique styles - he also offered a heatshrink that while its not the best will get most jobs done easily.

MainFrame Customs - http://mainframecustom.com/ - LC provides at this moment the best paracord on the market including a never before sold "coreless" kind that makes sleeving easy with paracord. What sets apart this paracord from others and I dont say this just because its my shop is that I have literally tried every reseller of paracord out there and there is always problems like fuzzyness or snags, LC paracord is perfect and tightly woven and comes in many many colors both in 550 and coreless. Save yourself the frustration from buying bargain Paracord that looks like its been drug through a parking lot and get the good stuff right away. http://mainframecustom.com/ also carries everything you need for your sleeving job at great prices!

PC Modz Depot - http://pcmzd.com/pcmzd-cable-sleeving/pcmzd-cable-sleeving.html - PCMZD is a great sleeve, everything about it is nice minus the coloring - the colors are an see through on some of them and just dont match some systems. Dont take my word for it give them a try the owner is an awesome fellow is ready to help out anyone he can. They also carry heatshrink but I have not at this time had a chance to try it.

ShakMods - http://shakmods.com/ - ShakMods sleeving is just like PCMZD in some different colors, the weave is the same and the same issues are with it. However Shak provides different heatshrink that is medium level heat shrink and will work for for your project. Also Shakmods has come out with a line of matte sleeving that is unique in the fact that the colors are slightly faded to give a eggshell finish. Many people are undecided on if they like the look or not as most people choose to have vibrant colors instead.

Some quick mentions for sleeve that I have not fully tested are as follows:

Big City Sleeving - https://www.facebook.com/groups/299207060157345/ - BCS is Otis Fats I have not gotten my hands on any so I have not done a review yet but its worth looking into.

FTW Sleeve Rignoobies Brand - http://www.tipidpc.com/viewitem.php?iid=20995037 - This sleeve is made by the popular Rig Noobies and is an up and coming company. Give them a chance you might be surprised.

Gosu Modz - http://www.gosumodz.com/ - This is a new company overseas and they have come out with a sleeve series called their PHALANX SLEEVES. I have not had the chance to use their sleeve yet but I have some on the way to do a review on it. It comes in many colors and looks to be promising!

ModDiy - http://www.moddiy.com/ - ModDiy has been around for a while and are a great shop for just about anything sleeving and more. They carry a line called Deluxe High Density Weave and it comes in vaired sizes from 2mm to 16mm. They also carry the super hard to find connectors that honestly cannot be found anywhere else - however they know it and charge allot for them all the way up to over 2 dollars and the shipping is high at times. But they are a great shop for all your needs.

CableMod - http://www.CableMod.com - CableMod is a supplier of OEM Cable sets for allot of different power supplies - at this point they dont sell sleeving by itself but they use a paracord like fabric that seems to work well. I have heard mixed results from the people who buy them but I have not had the chance to review one but I have one on its way so I will update this. Right now they are indeed the cheapest place to buy OEM sets in multiple colors for your psus so it wont be too bad to give them a try.

ModGuru - http://modguru.net/ - ModGuru currently sells Shakmods sleeving so this stores sleeve is the quality as Shakmods.

Other Sleevings – There is a few other types of sleeving out there at this moment, but I have not added the due to their popularity not being very high and the price or quality being too high or too low. I will be adding the other types as I find some time.


I am curious as to why UPC is not being recognized for their work? They do excellent work and my personal testimony can prove to that (as well as the pictures I have attached). Their Aegis sleeving is extremely high quality and I don't see why they aren't being given the recognition that they deserve, yet people who opened shops two weeks are? I don't think I have even seen any work from over HALF of these shops. CableMod is so new they just got a facebook....again, I am not bashing all these other sleevers, I am just wondering why someone WHO DOES QUALITY WORK AND USES QUALITY SLEEVING is not being added to this list.





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Sorry bud, it was late and I spaced you and 3 others I will get to them in the morning.
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I am curious as to why UPC is not being recognized for their work? They do excellent work and my personal testimony can prove to that (as well as the pictures I have attached). Their Aegis sleeving is extremely high quality and I don't see why they aren't being given the recognition that they deserve, yet people who opened shops two weeks are? I don't think I have even seen any work from over HALF of these shops. CableMod is so new they just got a facebook....again, I am not bashing all these other sleevers, I am just wondering why someone WHO DOES QUALITY WORK AND USES QUALITY SLEEVING is not being added to this list.

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woa woa...

It was late and I honestly spaced it- I was grabbing everyone I could off the top of my list and head, I have 3 more I need to add as well I will add them in the morning - nothing against anyone, just late and tired - I have UPC added in the International sleeving group on facebook tons of people see his nice colors of sleeving =) Adam does good work but if its recognition you want for him post an indepth review here or on facebook for him.

Just remember this is an always being updated FAQ and I always take suggestions on items needed to be added when asked or informed thumb.gif
Edited by Lutro0 - 1/27/15 at 10:40am
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I have a few questions about something that I don't see addressed in many (or any) guides, but I have recently run in to while trying to do my first set of individually sleeved extensions. What is the best way to measure and ensure that all wires are a consistent length? I found that even though I *thought* my wires were consistently measured, that when I started plugging things into terminals the differences in length were enough to cause waviness. I can make the short, visible portion look ok, but I'm worried that when I do GPU cables I won't be able to hide the imperfections

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Also, If I want to train cables such that there are curves in them, do I need to make sure that the wires on the outside of the curve are longer than those on the inside to account for the bend radius? Whats the best way to do this? Is there a general rule of thumb (e.g. 1/4" longer on the outside wires is usually ok)?
Edited by OwaN - 1/28/15 at 8:26am
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We had a discussion about this last year or something. This is how I approach it, others may differ in opinion smile.gif

One mistake is measuring the insulation which is stretchy, instead of the wire which is not stretchy. The other mistake is that when you make the crimp, wire position can vary wildly depending how deep you pushed in the strands.

Either: 1) pre-crimp - crimp 3 clicks and remove and adjust before returning the pin to the crimper and finishing it; or 2) observe while you are pushing in the wire how far the strands are poking out the other side.
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