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If coded directly for the specific processor, a POWER7 will trounce any general purpose coded processor for desktop.

If you optimize for any processor, you get performance gains.....

Why would code run faster on a POWER7 verses an equivalent x86 CPU?
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I guess we'll see, the way the wrists are positioned just seems like it would be uncomfortable after awhile, but there really isn't any way to know without holding one.

The controller has been updated and has hand grips on the back now

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If this really is true, maybe there is some glimmer of hope to the rumors of 6770 GPU. I can dream right?
But anyways, I have said it before, but Nintendo is the only true innovator in the industry and they are always focused on the enjoyment of games. For those who look at Mario Galaxy and claim they cannot play it based on how it looks, you clearly need to be forced to sit down and try it and immediately realize why it is one of the very best games of all time.

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The net performance of the Broadway is quite a lot faster than a Pentium III 1GHz.

Where are you getting this information? Broadway's theoretical performance figures are pretty paltry, given that it's little more than a die shrunk Gecko.
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So, 20X faster than the Broadway is a chip that's noticeably faster than a 2500K. The IBM POWER7 is a very decent candidate for that place. If coded directly for the specific processor, a POWER7 will trounce any general purpose coded processor for desktop.

A full fledged 3GHz quad core POWER7 is theoretically a good bit faster than a 2500k, but there is no way the WiiU is using a full fledged POWER7. Just the CPU would wildly exceed the power/thermal budget for the entire console.
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If you optimize for any processor, you get performance gains.....
Why would code run faster on a POWER7 verses an equivalent x86 CPU?

Note that I said 'if you code specifically for it'.

Code shouldn't run faster in an equivalent X86 processor or vice versa, it's just that if the Power7, which is an already powerful platform, on top of that gets specific code, it will outperform any similar processor that gets general purpose code, like let's say, in a mainstream/enthusiast desktop Windows-based platform.

Not by running code faster, but by running more efficient code. The overall processor will be faster. That was what I said.


@Blameless: The Broadway (which is like you said, a die shrunken, optimized, and clocked 50% faster Gekko) is newer than the Coppermine architecture, and it is also a purpose built processor. In absolute GFLOPS, the P3 at 733MHz drops 2GFLOPS (the variant used for the XBOX), while the Gekko runs at 485MHz and pumps 1.9GFLOPS. By that matter, the 729MHz clocked Broadway should run at a 50% faster speed than the Gekko, meaning it runs at around 3GFLOPS. That is certainly faster than the Pentium III at 1GHz, which gives 2.7GFLOPS approximately.


I agree with you in the matter of the processor. An eight threaded (that's what the article says) Power7 processor would eat so much power, that half the weight of the console would be the heatsink! biggrin.gif
   
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I will always love the Super Famicon !!!!! That was such an amazing system for it's day. I mean ,the way it could do 5 scrolls deep on side scrollers ,vs like 2 on the Sega !!!! And the sound was crystal clear ,and brilliant for it's time also. I like the Genny too ,but grainy and almost same soundtrack for every game .
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I will always love the Super Famicon !!!!! That was such an amazing system for it's day. I mean ,the way it could do 5 scrolls deep on side scrollers ,vs like 2 on the Sega !!!! And the sound was crystal clear ,and brilliant for it's time also. I like the Genny too ,but grainy and almost same soundtrack for every game .

You're better off calling it a Super Nintendo, as 95% of people on this site won't know what you're talking about. I agree though, that console was incredible, and many of those games are still my favorites, like Super Mario World, FF2/4, FF3/6, and Super Metroid.
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Note that I said 'if you code specifically for it'.
Code shouldn't run faster in an equivalent X86 processor or vice versa, it's just that if the Power7, which is an already powerful platform, on top of that gets specific code, it will outperform any similar processor that gets general purpose code, like let's say, in a mainstream/enthusiast desktop Windows-based platform.
Not by running code faster, but by running more efficient code. The overall processor will be faster. That was what I said.

What specific code are you talking about? Why would only POWER7 get specific code? What is "general purpose code"? Are you talking about API or un-optimized code? Console development always eventually becomes "to the metal" but most developers are not writing custom compilers or tweaking machine code...

The processor would be the same running efficient code or not. The process would return faster or use less resources with efficient code... but that is not the same.
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DuckieHo, I think he means "coding games for WiiU vs buying a copy on pc that isn't specifically coded for your i7 920" for instance. idk maybe that's what he's getting at?
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DuckieHo, I think he means "coding games for WiiU vs buying a copy on pc that isn't specifically coded for your i7 920" for instance. idk maybe that's what he's getting at?

Maybe... but that already is obvious.... but what makes PowerPC better for consoles than ARM, MIPS, or x86? (Or from a hardware point of view, POWER7 better than Xeon or Tegra)
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I will always love the Super Famicon !!!!! That was such an amazing system for it's day. I mean ,the way it could do 5 scrolls deep on side scrollers ,vs like 2 on the Sega !!!! And the sound was crystal clear ,and brilliant for it's time also. I like the Genny too ,but grainy and almost same soundtrack for every game .

The Famicon is the Japanese name for the Super Nintendo if i recall?
 

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