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post #1 of 15
5/28/12 at 6:02pm
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Im trying to set up a 160g IDE drive on my computer. Its from an older system and still has some files on it that I need to get off before I wipe it. After I get it wiped I plan to stick it in my old Core2Duo machine and put Ubuntu on it just to mess with. Both drives in question are Western Digital Black

The problem is, I can get my PC to load windows with the 160gb drive plugged in. Ive got my SATA drive set as the primary boot drive. The BIOS recognizes both drives, and AFAIK the boot order is set up right. I think it may be an issue with where Ive got the jumper. The 160gb drive that Im trying to wipe is the only drive in my PC that is ran through IDE. I should have it set up an a Single drive right, and that would mean no jumper? Do I need to change the jumper on my SATA drive now that the IDE is in there?

Basically. I have a 320gb SATA and a 160gb IDE. SATA is primary, i need to set the 160gb up as a secondary drive so I can wipe it. Windows will not boot off of the SATA unless I unplug the IDE drive. Ive had this drive setup in this PC before, I just unplugged it completely a while back because its noisy.
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post #2 of 15
5/28/12 at 6:05pm
sata has no jumper read on the ide drive I think it will need to be set as slave or cs actually to allow the bios to realize you want to boot from the sata drive
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post #3 of 15
5/28/12 at 6:07pm
On the back of the hard drive check the jumper settings for master slave. If there is also another drive on the IDE channel such as a DVD/CD you could have a jumper setting problem. Also try another IDE cable or having it as the only device on the IDE cable. In the bios disable other boot devices so that the only boot device available for now is the sata drive. There may be boot ooptions to change besides those on the boot order page such as hot swap. If the drive previously was a windows boot partion the windows boot order can do strange things and you have to disable the possiblity of it being in use.
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post #4 of 15
5/28/12 at 6:13pm
set the ide drive to CS and you should be good to go. Obviously you have set the OS drive as the primary boot device?

Is the IDE Drive healthy/working? Because sometimes, when you have a dead/dying drive plugged in, windows won't boot regardless on what drive the OS is on.

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post #5 of 15
5/28/12 at 6:24pm
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@drufause- The 160gb IDE drive is the only IDE device in my PC. I thought that the Master/Slave settings were only for when you had dual devices running on the same cable.

@Wiffenberg- yeah, I doublechecked my BIOS to make sure that it was booting off of the SATA. Ill try the cable select jumper like you suggested. Ive never had any problems with the drive, I dont know if its unhealthy or not, just old. It worked fine when I built this computer.
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5/28/12 at 6:39pm
let us know how it goes, we are always interested in these weird computer hiccups
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post #7 of 15
5/28/12 at 6:40pm
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I changed it to cable select and it did the same thing. I turn the computer on, check the BIOS, then exit. It gets to the Starting Windows screen, and it just sits there. Its beginning to load Windows 7 off of the SATA drive, but it just hangs up in the middle somewhere.
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post #8 of 15
5/28/12 at 6:47pm
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set the ide drive to CS and you should be good to go. Obviously you have set the OS drive as the primary boot device?

Is the IDE Drive healthy/working? Because sometimes, when you have a dead/dying drive plugged in, windows won't boot regardless on what drive the OS is on.

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Yeah, I've noticed the same thing. I was fixing a PC that couldn't boot off either CD/DVD drive. Both were on Cable Select, so I flipped one to Master and the other to Slave. Instantly both were bootable.

Applying the reverse logic seems like the way to go. thumb.gif

Hope it's not a dying drive. Sucks when you plug in a drive that's been off for a while and find out it went bad. My Raptor went bad that way. It was fine for 9-9.5 years, except for some strange noises for the last 5. Then I left the PC off for a month. When I next turned it on, it couldn't even boot the OS. Bad sectors galore. Instantly failed all SMART tests, and within an hour it wouldn't even spinup. Sitting idle seemed to have killed it.

I figure the weird noises that I heard for the last 5 years were it going over tracks and rewriting them. Raptors are Enterprise drives, which are designed for 24/7 use - no time for offline SMART tests. wink.gif It must've noticed its failing magnetism and started rewriting tracks when idle, to try to prevent its failure.

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I changed it to cable select and it did the same thing. I turn the computer on, check the BIOS, then exit. It gets to the Starting Windows screen, and it just sits there. Its beginning to load Windows 7 off of the SATA drive, but it just hangs up in the middle somewhere.
Oh - try safemode! (Tap F8 before getting to the windows logo.)
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5/28/12 at 7:43pm
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Hope it's not a dying drive. Sucks when you plug in a drive that's been off for a while and find out it went bad. My Raptor went bad that way. It was fine for 9-9.5 years, except for some strange noises for the last 5. Then I left the PC off for a month. When I next turned it on, it couldn't even boot the OS. Bad sectors galore. Instantly failed all SMART tests, and within an hour it wouldn't even spinup. Sitting idle seemed to have killed it.

that could be it. its been sitting around for maybe a year since I last hooked it up.
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5/28/12 at 8:21pm
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No difference trying to boot it in safe mode.
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