[GTM] Diablo III style DRM could lose “a chunk of gaming history”: GOG.com - Page 8  

Well the first character I kept "pure" and played through a solo experience without anyone or ah etc reading all the stories and doing every dungeon side/part.

Was hating the wd on hell act 1 tho so restarted a barb and been ah'ing it all the way. It is so funny, got through the whole game on normal in one sitting. Blasting through nightmare aswell atm I am to weak to resist the ah now

GoG doesn't have to exist for the games to remain, this is the entire point.

You buy a game from GoG, you get the install file and never need to touch GoG again. GoG could disappear tomorrow, and all of my GoG games will still work tomorrow, or 50 years from now.

GoG's entire business model is based around not having DRM.

If they had DRM, no one would purchase from them, they would just pirate these games, or continue to use the copies they already own.

I have purchased 37 games from GoG. Half of them I already own, but repurchased because having a completely DRM free copy in one convenient file was worth the asking price, and because I am more than willing to support their efforts.

Not if they continue to see profit on GoG.

Even big name developers are releasing games on GoG. Hell, Ubisoft, well known for their love of absurd DRM, just put FarCry 2 up there.

There is a market for DRM free titles. Even if the argument can be made that DRM can protect initial sales, it does nothing to deminish the fact that there are a substantial number of people that will not purchase certain titles if they find the DRM to be too much of a burden. So, when the market that is tolerant of DRM has been penetrated as far as is possible, there is utterly nothing to lose by taking advantage of the anti-DRM market.

GoG is a major pioneer of the DD age and is doing quite well.

I couldn't possibly disagree more. Indeed, I think you have your analogy entirely backwards.

Problem is that most DRM doesn't work, pisses off a substantial minority of potential customers, and publishers are finally starting to realize this.

Businesses will do what they think will make them the most money. Certain forms of DRM can be effective, at least for a short time, in preventing piracy, but after this period it's a liability, not an asset.

You didn't download your game purchases? Doesn't that sort of defeat the purpose?

Speak for yourself.

I didn't.

No, the argument won't change. Client side issues will remain, as will the utter lack of control the end user has. The fact will remain that if something should happen to Blizzard, or should they stop supporting the game, it's gone, and they already have your money.
Edited by Blameless - 5/29/12 at 8:47am

So you just pulled a random statistic out of your behinds(looking for something , mods?).Great!Tell me how credible your argument is.

How about no?

Statistical fallacy.There is no apt comparison to the sales of D3 in relation to another number.DRM will never have its place so long as there are people like me who didn't and will continue to not accept the lube that came with it.

As history has shown time and time again , it has never been the companies who are leading the consumer by the nose ; only the consumer can and will dictate the plausibility of change.The videogame industry is doomed to repeat the crash of the music industry because the regular consumer will NEVER put up with this crap , not in the 90s , not now.If anything it will exasperate file sharing even more , people WILL find a way to cache server data into their machines and do what they please ; hardware manufacturers will just outright not sell their chips to those companies who wish to run server farms because it would literally crash half their revenue from the technology sector and puts their pacing at the mercy of software companies which is never good for advancement.The last thing anyone would want in this forum is to let onlive decide what Crysis looks like on "high" for you.

On this note , "The cloud" is just a buzzword for dumb investors that are too hip to do the required research to come to a conclusion that this is OLD STUFF , its like moving from living in caves to houses then back to caves again ; ADVANCEMENT DOESN'T WORK LIKE THAT , WAKE UP PEOPLE.It would just make a mockery of the renaissance of home computing to not rely on dumb terminals in the first place!Software companies will have everything to gain but the hardware companies WILL NEVER EVER LET THEM DO IT.
Edited by chia233 - 5/29/12 at 8:46am

what is funny about that game is that they released a DRM Free version, but the version with the DRM is the most pirated. i can't even begin to understand that...

I understand why DRM is there, i also understand why legitimate users hate it. However, until somebody comes up with a way to minimize losses due to pirating, we are going to continue to see various itterations of DRM... some will be bearable, some will be terrible.

WRT Diablo 3, i have not had the issues that other people have and continue to enjoy the game, problem free. Maybe i'm just lucky but none of the people i play with have had issues either.

OH




so you are one of the people who are non-existent according to guys who hold opinions such as "who don't have 24/7 internet these days?"

I'm one of those people too.

This game probably has the worse DRM in existence, even ubisoft's drm was better; even after launch the game is a mess. Newest problem, trying to play the game says new patch is available even though i saw it download before i launched the game and it says the game is up to date. Whenever I try to login it says new patch is available even though the launch screen says my game is up to date. My friend had all his characters disappear, this game is just a broken mess. But hey its Blizzard so people look the other way. Not all DRM is bad, even the ubisoft one didn't give me problems, Diablo 3's is the first that gave me problems.
Edited by sausageson - 5/29/12 at 4:01pm

They already lost at least 2 sales that I am 100% positive of. If they think DRMs don't hurt them they are dead wrong.

^ This

I have only had one lag spike (+300 ms) and even that only lasted for maybe 8-10 seconds.

Cloud-based computing and streamed content/services are here whether we like it or not... It's that way in the IT world as well as the gaming world.

lol....