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I purchased a Catleap Q270 monitor yesterday.
My Catleap Unboxing (Click to show)
I ultimately decided to go with this monitor since I had the option to examine the product before purchasing it. That eliminates some of the risk that I would bear if I had ordered it from S.Korea "blindly."

First thoughts: The stand on the monitor is truly flimsy as many people have commented in the past. But, it functions well. It's definitely usable with this stand, but I plan to get a VESA stand once I decide on my monitor setup for the future (i.e. why get a VESA stand for one monitor, when I can get one for three and add monitors later if that's what I plan on doing in the end? I'm going to decide within the month of June; in the meantime, this stand will suffice.) The stand looks great with the monitor as well, but the monitor does seem to be a bit unstable on it. This problem stems from the large size of monitor relative to the stand; if the stand was wider perhaps this problem wouldn't exist.

The bezels (the casing of the screen) seems cheap as well. The flaws with this are so small that it cannot be captured by the camera (using an iPhone), so it's not that significant. However, I'm going to mention it anyway since I noticed it and I would appreciate as much information as possible if I am a prospective buyer. The incasing itself is not perfectly smooth. What I mean is that some sides are jagged (slightly... about 1mm or less). It's as if it wasn't closed properly by the machines on the manufacturing line. This particular flaw is only present on the right side of the monitor.

It's important to note that this is irrelevant with respect to the performance of the monitor. It's only the case. It's not the screen (the most important part).

On an extremely positive note... this monitor is incredible. I'm thrilled that I picked one up. Pictures do not seem to do this monitor justice. The screen is incredibly beautiful, and large. I can imagine that this feels like gaming on two monitors without having a bezel in between. It's incredible.

I think a PLP setup would work nicely. I asked for measurements several pages ago, but I'll measure them up tomorrow or the day after and look into some potential options for a multiple monitor display. I'll post all my research, findings and dimensions on OCN for all us. I will also keep you all updated on my monitor setup. If you all like where I am going with this, I encourage you all to do the same. smile.gif

Preliminary Pictures:


The Cat is about to Leap out of the box... over the lazy brown dog. It wasn't really a fox. It was a Catleap. Trust me. I'm a professional. biggrin.gif
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This is what you should expect to find in the box. User manuel (haven't checked it out yet), DVI cable, power cable and stand with two screws (not pictured).
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My Catleap! heart.gif
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I'm not a bot... do I have to fill in the image code below? biggrin.gif
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Gotta' clean this bad boy up! It wasn't really dirty to begin with, but I wanted this to be ready for it's OCN debut. thumb.gif
Just a tip for all you Catleap owners (and future owners), don't use Windex. I know it's pictured here, but I learned from experience. It didn't do a good job of cleaning it. For example, it left streak marks that did not dry well. It seemed to dry into a giant smudge of grease. It was nasty, but I immediately remedy the problem by moistening the fiber cloth with distilled water, and wiping it down methodically. I used another fiber cloth, which was dry, for the finishing touches. I didn't want to let it air dry for two reasons: a) just in case water dripped anywhere, b) air drying might leave some marks; it does on my eye glasses at least, so I decided not to leave it to chance. I cleaned it well, and dried it immediately.
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The result was perfection........... Where's that brown dog anyway? biggrin.gif
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My 17'' MacBook Pro is dwarfed by the Catleap monitor (comparison of Apple MacBook Pro to the Catleap -- wrote this in for those who might be googling comparisons)
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I'll post more monitor pics once I finish my computer build because I cannot demonstrate the pixel perfect image quality right now without a computer! But, I did do a full inspection at the seller's house. It's all good! thumb.gif


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Originally Posted by quakermaas View Post

Nice price, is it a 2B ?

[Price was $300]
Thanks! No, I don't think this is the 2B model unfortunately, but over clocking it isn't my greatest concern. Maybe, for my second monitor, I'll get the over clocked variant, if it's available and use the pictured monitor as a secondary non-gaming monitor, or I'll purchase the 2B board to enable overclocking on this one.

*This post was originally posted in the Catleap Monitor Club


I am planning my first build and I am stuck on choosing on a monitor. I'm not quite 100% certain what to get. The computer would be used for gaming, work and school.

Originally, I set out to have a multiple monitor setup because of the sheer multitasking power. Furthermore, I imagined that having more than one monitor can give me greater peripheral vision while playing BF3; I won't have to turn around so much due to greater vision. However, I then discovered the cheap, yet high quality, Korean 27'' monitors. I heard it's great to play on higher resolutions, so I have become inclined to get the 27''.

Option #1: Catleap + 2 different monitors

--It would be ideal if I could game on all three monitors, but if it's not possible that doesn't eliminate this option. It would still be great to have the additional two monitors for multitasking -- these two monitors would be smaller (and in portrait mode) than the Catleap, so it wouldn't take up too much room.

For the two additional monitors, I'm considering the:

1) Dell UltraSharp 1703FP
2) Dell Ultrasharp 2001FP


Does anyone have any suggestions or experiences using these monitors with a 27'' in a PLP setup?

Option #2: Two Catleaps (one for gaming, and the other for multitasking)

Option #3: Three Dell U2312HM --would I be able to play BF3 at highest settings with 60+ FPS? And would SLI be necessary, whether I use a 690 or 670?

Which option would be best?
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while you can run two for gaming, don't. Your character or reticle will be in the center and you won't be able to see it because of the bezels. 1 or 3 for gaming unless you use the 2nd monitor as extended desktop but still game on 1 monitor.
 
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while you can run two for gaming, don't. Your character or reticle will be in the center and you won't be able to see it because of the bezels. 1 or 3 for gaming unless you use the 2nd monitor as extended desktop but still game on 1 monitor.

That makes sense. I will consider adding more monitors down the road, but for now I will be content to game on one monitor and use the second for multitasking (and, if possible to game on both of them if I could center the screen on one monitor and use the other for extra vision).

However, don't I have to consider the implication of going with 27'' monitors @ high resolutions vs 23'' monitors @ relatively lower resolutions? Once I get three monitors (later down the road), would a triple 27'' setup be manageable at highest settings (with 60 FPS)? This makes the Dell Ultrasharps seem more attractive as I would still be able to maintain high performance in game (with Crossfire/SLI most likely) due to the smaller resolution.

I don't know when performance begins to tank with higher resolutions monitors, and if CrossFire/SLI would solve the problems completely.
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I recognize that my OP, prior to editing, was too long. I shortened it, hoping that it will encourage some helpful feedback.


Does anyone have any thoughts, or personal experiences with either of the two aforementioned monitors? (I read through the Catleap Monitor Club so I have a sense of how great it can be, but I could not find information or discussion about Catleap vs Dell Ultrasharp)

On one hand, you buy peace of mind with Dell (warranty and 100% working monitor guarantee, or you can swap it for a better one). But, it's a smaller monitor with a smaller resolution. Whereas, with the Catleap, you will most likely (but not 100%) get a larger monitor for a great price. And it's not just any large monitor... the image quality is supposedly excellent; it boosts of vivid picture and excellent game play.

It's not as straightforward as it may seem due to the various trade offs. I defer to your experience. You all probably know more about monitors than I do. What do you guys think is the better choice?
    
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whatever you buy make sure you buy directly from a corp that makes the tv
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I recently bought 3 of the dell ultrasharps you mentioned, I would use them over the catleaps as the LG panels in Catleaps can be hit or miss.
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I'm faced with the same dilemna. I want at least two monitors for multitasking, but can't decide how I want it setup.

The best configuration, but most expensive, is to setup a PLP configuration using a Dell u3011 in the middle with two 2007FP flanking on each side. While you would only game using the center monitor, the side monitors can be used for work/non gaming activities.

I really want to go with a Korean IPS, but I can't find the ideal "accompying" monitor. I have seen Dell Ultrasharps in Portrait mode on the side of a Korean 27" IPS that don't look that bad, but it's not pixel perfect like the PLP option above.
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whatever you buy make sure you buy directly from a corp that makes the tv

That's a fair point. There's added risk by not buying directly from the corporation. This means that, based on that criteria, Dell would be the better option since the Catleaps are purchased through ebay, and not the corporation directly if I recall correctly; it's probably done through a reseller.

But, there are many people who have safely purchased a Catleap -- many of whom are in this very forum.
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I recently bought 3 of the dell ultrasharps you mentioned, I would use them over the catleaps as the LG panels in Catleaps can be hit or miss.

Yeah, that's the reason for my temptation to just go with the Ultrasharps. It's a solid monitor, and a safe choice.

If I ordered a Catleap, and it was 100% fine, then I wouldn't regret the purchase.
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I'm faced with the same dilemna. I want at least two monitors for multitasking, but can't decide how I want it setup.
The best configuration, but most expensive, is to setup a PLP configuration using a Dell u3011 in the middle with two 2007FP flanking on each side. While you would only game using the center monitor, the side monitors can be used for work/non gaming activities.
I really want to go with a Korean IPS, but I can't find the ideal "accompying" monitor. I have seen Dell Ultrasharps in Portrait mode on the side of a Korean 27" IPS that don't look that bad, but it's not pixel perfect like the PLP option above.
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whatever you buy make sure you buy directly from a corp that makes the tv

I like that idea Fperkins. Why isn't the Catleap and two Ultrasharps in portrait mode not "pixel perfect" when compared to your first example?

Please let me know if you find a suitable PLP configuration; using the Catleap as the gaming monitor is a great option. I am very interested in that possibility.since it seems to be a nice middle ground between the two options.
    
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The Korean displays have been far more consistent than any of the domestic IPS panels in terms of quality control (back-light bleeding, dead pixels, IPS tinting).

Dell "UltraSharp," is complete bs. It is impossible for them to be "UltraSharp," due to the excessively grainy matte coatings 99% of IPS panels use.

http://www.overclockers.ru/images/lab/2012/05/14/1/30_kristaleffect_big.jpg

This image shows how matte coatings distort the pixels on displays.

The Crossover is glossy, the rest of the displays are matte. The 2nd row uses strong matte coatings, see how distorted and grainy the pixels look. 99% of IPS panels are like this.

If you want the best image quality go for one of the Korean displays. If you are willing to sacrifice sharpness and deal with grainy whites and light colours, go for the U2312's
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I suggest looking at the Dell. It was actually after I got my Shimian that I looked at the u2711. We had a client running two off intel integrated! I got him a quadro card and upgraded to DisplayPort cables. Anyway the AG is BAD.
Edited by ewitte - 5/31/12 at 5:30am
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