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6/9/12 at 12:37am
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you can get this for 1500$
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post #22 of 120
6/9/12 at 1:04am
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Would this RAM be ideal then? What about the Corsair Vengeance or Corsair Dominator?
Now that I've made my monitor purchase (high resolution 27'' Catleap Q270), is the single GTX 670 an ideal choice? Or is SLI'ing the ideal option.
Or would a 7970 be better? I'm not very familiar with the AMD GPUs.

samsung ram are great, if your not into looks, then go ahead, their OC capability as other helpers have mentioned are awesome.

a single gtx 670 is still sufficient for a 1080p 27" monitor, and still have decent frame rate for games, here a link compare to 7970 so dont worry about it..
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6/9/12 at 7:04am
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samsung ram are great, if your not into looks, then go ahead, their OC capability as other helpers have mentioned are awesome.
a single gtx 670 is still sufficient for a 1080p 27" monitor, and still have decent frame rate for games, here a link compare to 7970 so dont worry about it..

My monitor is 1440p, not 1080. Does that change anything?
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post #24 of 120
6/9/12 at 8:04am
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My monitor is 1440p, not 1080. Does that change anything?

nope a single gtx 670 still have decent frame rate even at that resolution you can check the link for an idea, see what game you play, any card fps above 30, the card is still capable.
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post #25 of 120
6/9/12 at 8:22am
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nope a single gtx 670 still have decent frame rate even at that resolution you can check the link for an idea, see what game you play, any card fps above 30, the card is still capable.

Taking air cooling into consideration, are you familiar with what card would be a specifically better choice?

for the gtx670 series: evga ftw, Asus cuii top, gigabyte windforce (seems to be sold out though)
7950s: Sapphire, asus cuii top?

Those are what I'm looking at right now. I was leaning toward the 7950 based on the comments that I received from my GPU thread.
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6/9/12 at 9:21am
with a high resolution like that and assuming you will be running the monitor at over 60hz you may want to consider 2 cards for consistent framerates. getting the 4gb 670 wouldnt hurt either.
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6/9/12 at 9:46am
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with a high resolution like that and assuming you will be running the monitor at over 60hz you may want to consider 2 cards for consistent framerates. getting the 4gb 670 wouldnt hurt either.

I'm inclined to get two cards for consistent framrates, but does the importance of that change if I don't run the monitor over 60hz? The 4gb won't hurt, but is it necessary?
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6/10/12 at 1:24pm
4gb isnt necessary, i doubt you will max out 2gb of vram on 1 monitor like that even at 1440. if you run the monitor at 60hz then you only "need" 60FPS constant (through vsync) unless you like seeing it read out higher FPS, but youll never see a diff between 60fps and 100fps on a 60hz monitor. a single 670 might have trouble doing constant 60FPS on certain games/maps for example playing on a 64 man meatgrinder map in BF3, thats a real test of graphics card power lol. but for something like diablo its overkill even having 1 670.
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6/10/12 at 8:28pm
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4gb isnt necessary, i doubt you will max out 2gb of vram on 1 monitor like that even at 1440. if you run the monitor at 60hz then you only "need" 60FPS constant (through vsync) unless you like seeing it read out higher FPS, but youll never see a diff between 60fps and 100fps on a 60hz monitor. a single 670 might have trouble doing constant 60FPS on certain games/maps for example playing on a 64 man meatgrinder map in BF3, thats a real test of graphics card power lol. but for something like diablo its overkill even having 1 670.

Thanks for your input. I've decided to get a single GTX 670, and we'll see how it will run. Like many pragmatic people of OCN have been telling me, I can always SLI it at a later date.

Once I complete my purchases, I'm going convert this thread into a build log and I will add a section highlighting my thought process for selecting certain components just in case you, or others, are in a similar predicament. Eliminating things from my list of components was the hardest part for my first build. As a newbie, there's just so much information out there and it's hard to sift through all that data. I hope to shed some light into my process at least (for better and worse) to serve as learning experience so you don't have to go through it as I did. smile.gif
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6/11/12 at 10:29pm
Passion - I have built several watercooled rigs and love them and the whole process. However, my EVGA GTX 670 reference card is the first time in the last 4 generations of cards where I didn't feel watercooling was necessary for a quiet rig. It is quiet enough (when headphones are on or I am playing through the speakers) that I would honestly say watercooling isn't necessary. When I am surfing the web I can't even hear it over my Gentle Typhoon ap-15's.

My suggestion to you is that if you want to build a wc'ed rig is to choose your case carefully so you can add all the radiator capacity you need and plan for at least 360mm or so worth of radiator (by that I mean a 3x120 rad or a 120 + 2x120, etc). Start with wc'ing just the cpu and then add the gpu's if you really feel it is necessary or get bit hard by the wc bug.

Also, I'd recommend buying a gpu that exhausts all or most of its heat outside the case - the lower the internal case temp the easier time the radiators will have.

Look forward to the build log. thumb.gif
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